# Opinion: Lia Thomas shouldn’t swim in the Womens team

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-lia-thomas-shouldn-t-swim-in-the-womens-team/960437>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** olympic-sports-track\
**Created:** [March 4, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-lia-thomas-shouldn-t-swim-in-the-womens-team/960437 "2022-03-04T01:45:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-lia-thomas-shouldn-t-swim-in-the-womens-team/960437/61 "2022-03-05T02:05:12Z")

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Here’s a much more [positive story](https://people.com/sports/transgender-harvard-swimmer-schuyler-bailar-breaks-boundaries/#:~:text=Harvard%20University%20%E2%80%98s%20Schuyler%20Bailar%20made%20headlines%20when,his%20physical%20and%20emotional%20transition%20on%20social%20media.): Harvard University‘s Schuyler Bailar made headlines when he became the first openly transgender swimmer in NCAA Division 1 history.

He is very articulate and I had the opportunity to hear him speak on a Zoom panel last year.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-lia-thomas-shouldn-t-swim-in-the-womens-team/960437/62 "2022-03-05T02:11:56Z")

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[Moderating]  
There’s clearly a trainwreck in progress here, but I don’t have time tonight to sort it out. Meanwhile, I’m locking this. I may or may not unlock it later.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-lia-thomas-shouldn-t-swim-in-the-womens-team/960437/63 "2022-03-05T02:12:04Z")

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-lia-thomas-shouldn-t-swim-in-the-womens-team/960437/64 "2022-03-05T18:58:12Z")

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OK, I’ve had a chance to go through the thread now. Three conclusions:

First: The article linked in the OP is completely devoid of content, and consists entirely of “people are saying”. Between that, and the nature of the source, I think that this thread started off with a poisoned well. I will not be re-opening it. There does seem to be room for reasoned discussion on this topic, so if someone wants to open a new, non-poisoned thread, that would be allowed.

Second:

> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> Wow, you people can’t even bother to read the thread before coming in to spew your hate speech, can you?
> 
> Literally five posts up there’s a detailed discussion of this. She finished second in the Ivy League championships as a male.
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> Kind of telling how basic things like facts fly out the window when a bigot sees a chance to oppress a minority.

This is a personal attack, which is not allowed outside of the BBQ Pit. This is an official Warning for @Thing.Fish .

Third,

> [@Chingon](#):
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> Lol doubtful. You’d want her parents locked up in jail for child abuse.

This is also a personal attack, and so also a Warning for @Chingon .

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