# Opinion on gender cliches **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 16, 2020, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750 "2020-11-16T23:52:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/1 "2020-11-16T23:52:19Z")
A Chinese-born, Berlin artist has a book about gender cliches. I found it funny, but am wondering what others think about this artist or whether depicting such simple stereotypes are outdated. (The link only shows a few of them, but I don’t want to take pictures of my favourites due to copyright.) > **[Man meets Woman: Funny pictograms about gender clichés by Yang Liu](https://www.mariefranceasia.com/lifelove/decoding/man-meets-woman-funny-pictograms-gender-cliches-yang-liu-41283.html)** > > Gender stereotypes repeatedly plague society but at least we've got artists to throw a hilarious light onto the issue... (Link to other book and discussion): [Opinion on Asian Customs - #29 by LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-asian-customs/925652/29) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/2 "2020-11-16T23:58:43Z")
ISTM she’s selling 1950s-style thinking in 2010s-style cartoons. She certainly picked big fat targets with no subtlety. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/3 "2020-11-17T00:03:44Z")
True enough. ---
**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/4 "2020-11-17T00:16:29Z")
I think they are very clever. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/5 "2020-11-17T00:33:09Z")
I mean…she’s not wrong. For the most part. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/6 "2020-11-17T00:41:10Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Gender stereotypes repeatedly plague society but at least we’ve got artists to throw a hilarious light onto the issue – by feeding into them, and thereby adding to the plague? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/7 "2020-11-17T00:53:45Z")
This quote is from _Marie Claire Asia_ magazine, not Dr\_Paprika. I think the artwork is very clever - the message much less so: hardly groundbreaking, dated, hackneyed but often true. And uninfectious. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/8 "2020-11-17T01:04:37Z")
I think they’re mostly untrue old “common knowledge” and very unoriginal. Yeah, women can multitask and men think about sex all time 🙄. It’s so old hat that it’s cringeworthy. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/9 "2020-11-17T01:08:17Z")
Unfunny, unoriginal, and dumb as shit. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/10 "2020-11-18T21:47:17Z")
Not to mention just plain lazy. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/11 "2020-11-18T22:56:18Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > Unfunny, unoriginal, and dumb as shit. Yeah, that about sums it up. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/12 "2020-11-18T23:12:19Z")
Why is it unoriginal? ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/13 "2020-11-18T23:19:36Z")
Or technically speaking - they’re lame. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/14 "2020-11-18T23:27:15Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Why is it unoriginal? Because the cliches in the cartoons are ages old and have longer beards than ZZ Top. (yeah, I adopted a German idiom about old stale jokes and notions: they have long beards over here 😉) ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/15 "2020-11-18T23:40:14Z")
Comedy, it wasn’t. I did notice that the list was about even split between bigoted bullshit (ie: actual cliches) and stuff that happens because of, you know, actual reasons. The way they were indiscriminately lumped together made be wonder whether the creator realized that the two categories of things aren’t the same. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/16 "2020-11-21T15:23:07Z")
God, these are terrible. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/17 "2020-11-22T00:13:09Z")
I don’t understand some of them. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/18 "2020-11-22T13:11:54Z")
Did you notice the little words in the upper outer corners that give the topic for each cartoon? You’re not missing much; Archie Bunker would have felt right at home endorsing each of them. (Except for the ones about love and sex and relationships; he couldn’t bring himself to talk about “the mushy stuff”.) ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/19 "2020-11-22T13:53:26Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Did you notice the little words in the upper outer corners that give the topic for each cartoon? The OP’s link didn’t work for me yesterday so I had to go on google images, which didn’t include the captions. But now the link works for me. The caption actually does help (and also I seem to be more intelligent right now…I don’t know why the last one perplexed me so much yesterday). ---
**Author:** ![Jaguars](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaguars/32/5879_2.png) [@Jaguars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaguars)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinion-on-gender-cliches/925750/20 "2020-11-22T22:17:44Z")
Wow, I’m sure all the biggest macho assholes I know would love them but I’ve heard them all so many times I just didn’t crack a smile at all. Just feel like they’re fundamentally unfair to the women I know and respect. Just as important, how the fuck is this site bypassing ublock?!