# Opinions on WoW vs. LOTRO

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 29, 2009, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-on-wow-vs-lotro/494710 "2009-04-29T06:19:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-on-wow-vs-lotro/494710/21 "2009-05-01T19:39:13Z")

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At the time, it was terribly over-balanced to favor the players in that it would often take several monsters working in concert to kill a PC. This was mitigated by the number of people who played monsters so we could outnumber them 2-1 or 3-1 and have some great battles.

Then people started hitting 50 (and a fully ranked lvl 5 monster was no where near a lvl 50 in power) and those lvl 50’s got bored with the PvE game after getting all their traits and the best weapons/armor and started flooding the PvMP game as Freeps. The PC armies would roll over the monster armies and it just became a waste of time to play. Which meant that people would log in a monsters, say “Oh, we’re trapped in the fort again” and log out. Went completely against Turbine’s notion that the monsters would be able to win victories by fighting as a swarm.

What Turbine needed to do (in my opinion) was directly rebalance the monsters & PCs against one another but they refused to even consider it. I don’t know if that ever changed.

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