# Opinions that others would find blasphemy?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 21, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452 "2013-11-21T17:51:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/101 "2013-11-25T07:55:41Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> I’m doubtful that the Holocaust happened, as presented to us. I go along with David Irving on this, pretty much. I think that the Wannassee (sp?) Conference tapes were fake, mistranslated, or out of conference.  
> (Before you start cackling that I’m anti-Semitic, I will say that you are totally wrong.)
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> I think that a Monarchy/Dictatorship would serve the US just as well as a democracy.
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> I think that Penn and Teller are a couple of overrated, unentertaining shit-heads.
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> More to follow…as soon as I can remember them.
> 
> Ooops…forgot. I think that medicine above the level of ‘medics’ is a waste of time and money, and, waiting out the disease is as effective as medical treatments.

There are no tapes of the Wannsee conference. I will not say that you are antisemitic in this forum, but Holocaust denial is pretty much axiomatically anti-Semitic, because it requires the belief that all European Jews from the mid 20th century were incredible liars.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/102 "2013-11-25T08:11:31Z")

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> [@Donegal\_Dragon](#):
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> True blasphemy!!

I didn’t say it was superior to real coffee, but it’s drinkable. There are worse travesties (processed cheese, for example).

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/103 "2013-11-25T08:25:39Z")

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> [@Fuji](#):
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> I heard this same slogan back when I was in school 20 years ago. It didn’t make any sense to me then, and still doesn’t now. The [Wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property_is_theft!) article on it doesn’t exactly clear things up (“Property is theft _and_ property is freedom”?). Would you care to clarify your stance?

Perhaps a better statement would be “The origin of all real property is in theft from the common weal” - meaning that no-one creates real estate _ex nihilo_. In order for anyone to _own_ property, they have to _deprive_ everyone else of ownership.

Conversely, “free access to the use of property is economic freedom” is a better rephrasing of the second statement. They are not contradictory - one speaks of the origins of the current capitalist state of affairs, one speaks of a desired noncapitalist ideal.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/104 "2013-11-25T09:05:34Z")

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Or if we want to keep it pithy: “Property Has Been Theft! Property Can Be Freedom!”

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/105 "2013-11-25T09:31:47Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> I didn’t say it was superior to real coffee, but it’s drinkable. There are worse travesties (processed cheese, for example).

It’s NOT drinkable, though; it’s a powder. Only liquids are drinkable.

Once it’s been reconstituted into a liquid state, it’s no longer INSTANT COFFEE; it’s simply coffee-that-doesn’t-taste-very-good.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/106 "2013-11-25T10:06:21Z")

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No-terr DAYME is a gibberish string of syllables with no meaning; the correct pronunciation of the name of the University in South Bend, IN, is NOH-truh DAHM. Seemingly everyone else in the country insists on sayinng it wrong.

Other than that, I hold no views that could reasonably be considered blasphemous; my views are the default, and those that diverge are outliers.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/107 "2013-11-25T11:05:15Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> I didn’t say it was superior to real coffee, but it’s drinkable. There are worse travesties (processed cheese, for example).

Hey, take it easy man! What did processed cheese ever do to you?

A can of Rotel extra spicy and a hunk of Velveeta make an excellent cheese dip. 🙂

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/108 "2013-11-25T11:06:20Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Just do that when you have TB or lung cancer and let us know.

Better yet, when \*you \*get TB or lung cancer, let everybody know how the doctors cured you.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/109 "2013-11-25T11:07:21Z")

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> [@Shmendrik](#):
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> …but Holocaust denial is pretty much axiomatically anti-Semitic, because it requires the belief that all European Jews from the mid 20th century were incredible liars.

Well, apparently not…  
And, if that were the case, which it isn’t, how does thinking that they were incredible liars means that I am anti-Semitic?

answer: it doesn’t. There is no correlation. Look for somebody else to buzz.

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**Author:** ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/110 "2013-11-25T11:47:12Z")

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Beyoncé is a decent dancer who can hold a tune. Otherwise she isn’t terribly interesting.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/111 "2013-11-25T12:17:35Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I don’t believe in God. I’m blaspheming like a Mo-fo!! Is there any other way?

Actually, no, you’re not committing blasphemy. In order to commit blasphemy, you have to show contempt or disrespect for God, and you really CAN’T show genuine contempt or disrespect to someone you don’t think exists.

As Chesterton put it, it’s hard to be a true blasphemer, and if you don’t believe that, try thinking blasphemous thoughts about Thor.

Sure, you can make yourself SAY “Thor was the scum of the Earth” or “Isis was a ho” or “Rama is a dick,” but your heart isn’t really in it, now, is it?

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**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/112 "2013-11-25T13:01:58Z")

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That country music is really music. 😃

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**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/113 "2013-11-25T13:19:11Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> No-terr DAYME is a gibberish string of syllables with no meaning; the correct pronunciation of the name of the University in South Bend, IN, is NOH-truh DAHM. Seemingly everyone else in the country insists on sayinng it wrong.

Isn’t South Bend on the way from day-TRWAH to day-MWAHN?

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/114 "2013-11-25T13:24:07Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I love white chocolate! I also like those little peanut butter taffies, you know, the ones that come in orange and black wrappers?

Oh, if we’re talking _that_ type of blasphemy… I think Necco wafers are yummy. Conversation hearts are pretty good too, but I’ve never understood why they felt the need to alter the standard flavor lineup (i.e., making the white hearts wintergreen instead of cinnamon, and making the pink hearts some unknown flavor instead of wintergreen).

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/115 "2013-11-25T13:40:22Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Perhaps a better statement would be “The origin of all real property is in theft from the common weal” - meaning that no-one creates real estate _ex nihilo_. In order for anyone to _own_ property, they have to _deprive_ everyone else of ownership.
> 
> Conversely, “free access to the use of property is economic freedom” is a better rephrasing of the second statement. They are not contradictory - one speaks of the origins of the current capitalist state of affairs, one speaks of a desired noncapitalist ideal.

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Or if we want to keep it pithy: “Property Has Been Theft! Property Can Be Freedom!”

Thank you for expanding on that. Your explanation makes sense (and I can somewhat agree, in a descriptive, if not normative, way.)

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/116 "2013-11-25T13:53:34Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> No-terr DAYME is a gibberish string of syllables with no meaning; the correct pronunciation of the name of the University in South Bend, IN, is NOH-truh DAHM. Seemingly everyone else in the country insists on sayinng it wrong.
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> Other than that, I hold no views that could reasonably be considered blasphemous; my views are the default, and those that diverge are outliers.

Is it our fault the bloody Frogs don’t use a single letter of the Latin alphabet the way the Romans intended?

> [@astorian](#):
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> As Chesterton put it, it’s hard to be a true blasphemer, and if you don’t believe that, try thinking blasphemous thoughts about Thor.

Marvel Comics managed it.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/117 "2013-11-25T14:26:04Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> I’m an anarcho-capitalist. I believe that government is an UNnecessary evil, and that every single function it attempts to perform could be done better by the private sector.

I can see where that can be seen as blasphemy (and I disagree with it personally) but I recognize that this thread is about stating controversial opinions and not thread-sh-tting all over them or calling people names.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/118 "2013-11-25T16:28:25Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> Better yet, when \*you \*get TB or lung cancer, let everybody know how the doctors cured you.

Has anyone ever been cured of lung cancer? I don’t know of anyone. ☹

There are some diseases whose outcome is the same whether they are treated or not, and this is one of them. Pancreatic cancer, too. Palliative treatment and comfort care are fine and do enhance quality of life, but aggressive treatment for a disease that’s going to be fatal in a matter of months anyway?

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/119 "2013-11-25T17:44:48Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Whenever I see a roomful of Muslims facing Mecca, I always wonder how many of them really believe in what they’re doing, and how many of them are only going through the motions because they know if they don’t, they can potentially lose everything, up to and including their lives.
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> And before anyone says they feel that way when they see a group of people at a Christian service, please tell me where in the world a person can be executed because they aren’t Christian.

[Neerg Tsev]America![/Neerg Tsev]

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**Author:** ![jrsone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jrsone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jrsone)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opinions-that-others-would-find-blasphemy/674452/120 "2013-11-25T20:17:02Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Which reminds me: I don’t think David Sedaris is funny.

Aw…

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