# "Oracle America Inc" (juckeck.exe) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 6, 2012, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816 "2012-09-06T01:04:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/1 "2012-09-06T01:04:20Z")
My son’s laptop had a recurring notification purporting to be a Java update from “Oracle America Inc.” DUH!!! Not Oracle Corp, not Sun Microsystems. They ought to get their ass sued by the real Oracle for distributing malware. I am sick of fixing my son’s computer. I know we’re not supposed to post while drinking but this is an extenuating circumstance. Edited to fix typo: jucheck.exe ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/2 "2012-09-06T02:18:45Z")
Oh, hell. I’ve been getting that, and letting it run. Damn, damn, damn! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/3 "2012-09-06T02:28:00Z")
I’m doing a Google search on jucheck.exe (and “Oracle America Inc”) and it appears to be a legitimate program. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/4 "2012-09-06T02:31:11Z")
Pretty sure “Oracle America Inc” is just the American division of Oracle: [http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=34903](http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=34903) Note that under “key executives” is Mr. William Vass President of Sun Microsystems Federal Inc and Chief Operating Officer of Sun Microsystems Federal Inc EDIT: And when you expand the details: > [@](#): > > Oracle America, Inc. was formerly known as Sun Microsystems Inc. and changed its name to Oracle America, Inc. in January 2010. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/5 "2012-09-06T02:40:31Z")
Yeah, it’s probably legit. But you should still uninstall Java completely if you don’t need it, and the chances that you do are slim. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/6 "2012-09-06T20:07:09Z")
> [@wikipedia](#): > > on january 27, 2010, sun was acquired by oracle corporation for us$7.4 billion, based on an agreement signed on april 20, 2009.[3] the following month, sun microsystems, inc. Was merged with oracle usa, inc. To become oracle america, inc.[4] lmgtfy. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/7 "2012-09-06T21:35:11Z")
Java was recently updated. If he plays browser games, he’ll be devastated that you removed it 😛 ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/8 "2012-09-07T11:56:13Z")
It does seem suspicious, and It always popped up right after I get the TWEAK REPAIR ENHANCE PROTECT(what that tfun is that annoying thing, it’s a trojan i bet ) pop up. I never accept the TREP, but I did approve the jucheck.exe with some trepidation after trying to google bad news about it, Didnt find any… ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/9 "2012-09-07T19:44:43Z")
The odd thing was, the directory where jucheck.exe was, did not have any of the usual java files. Also, when did this “Oracle America Inc” come into being? They were always Oracle Corp. ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/10 "2012-09-07T19:51:17Z")
p.s. – The jucheck.exe on my PC is signed by Sun Microsystems. The one on my son’s laptop was signed by “Oracle America Inc.” We both have Win 7. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/11 "2012-09-07T21:27:48Z")
> [@ratatoskK](#): > > Also, when did this “Oracle America Inc” come into being? They were always Oracle Corp. See posts #4 and #6 of this very thread. ---
**Author:** ![Michael63129](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@Michael63129](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael63129)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/12 "2012-09-08T01:42:41Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > Java was recently updated. If he plays browser games, he’ll be devastated that you removed it 😛 In my experience, the majority of browser games are Flash; in fact, I can’t remember the last time I saw a Java-based game. ---
**Author:** ![jmshannon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb9ed0/32.png) [@jmshannon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmshannon)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/13 "2013-04-22T18:59:32Z")
I’ve been getting the same thing from “Oracle America, Inc”. I’m not an expert at this, but from my experiences with spammers and trojans they will often make it appear to be a legit download/program by using a valid respectable product name. It’s hard to tell if it’s the real thing or not but sometimes you can tell by the icon. On the Oracle update I’ve been getting it has a question mark icon and they put the java coffee cup in there to make it look legit. It just looked fishy to me. Then I found this sight - Straight Dope - when I googled Oracle America, Inc. I’m not taking any chances, too many bogus ones have ruined my computers. I’m not running it. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/14 "2013-04-22T19:23:44Z")
> [@jmshannon](#): > > I’ve been getting the same thing from “Oracle America, Inc”. > > I’m not an expert at this, but from my experiences with spammers and trojans they will often make it appear to be a legit download/program by using a valid respectable product name. It’s hard to tell if it’s the real thing or not but sometimes you can tell by the icon. On the Oracle update I’ve been getting it has a question mark icon and they put the java coffee cup in there to make it look legit. It just looked fishy to me. > > Then I found this sight - Straight Dope - when I googled Oracle America, Inc. I’m not taking any chances, too many bogus ones have ruined my computers. I’m not running it. If you’re not going to update java, you should definitely uninstall it. I don’t know if what you have is legitimate or not (it’s probably really a legitimate java installation that legitimately wants to be updated), but if it is for real, the update is probably fixing multiple security issues. If you don’t update it and don’t uninstall it, you’re leaving yourself open to security threats. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/15 "2013-04-22T19:39:54Z")
> [@jmshannon](#): > > I’ve been getting the same thing from “Oracle America, Inc”. > > I’m not an expert at this, but from my experiences with spammers and trojans they will often make it appear to be a legit download/program by using a valid respectable product name. It’s hard to tell if it’s the real thing or not but sometimes you can tell by the icon. On the Oracle update I’ve been getting it has a question mark icon and they put the java coffee cup in there to make it look legit. It just looked fishy to me. > > Then I found this sight - Straight Dope - when I googled Oracle America, Inc. I’m not taking any chances, too many bogus ones have ruined my computers. I’m not running it. First, Oracle bought Sun, and so now owns Java. Second, Oracle is multi-national, and due to export controls it makes sense for Java upgrades going to the US to come from Oracle America. The message popped up on your screen, right? No email? If malware is installed on your computer, it won’t need your permission to load new stuff. Are you equally suspicious of all the Adobe upgrade messages you get? Finally, as **RitterSport** said, there were security issues with Java, which is why we are getting more visible and insistent upgrade messages. The only downside is that there are more annoying messages during the process than is usually the case. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/16 "2013-04-22T19:58:04Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > First, Oracle bought Sun, and so now owns Java. Second, Oracle is multi-national, and due to export controls it makes sense for Java upgrades going to the US to come from Oracle America. > The message popped up on your screen, right? No email? If malware is installed on your computer, it won’t need your permission to load new stuff. Are you equally suspicious of all the Adobe upgrade messages you get? > Finally, as **RitterSport** said, there were security issues with Java, which is why we are getting more visible and insistent upgrade messages. > The only downside is that there are more annoying messages during the process than is usually the case. The real downside is that there are more opportunities to forget to unclick the “Install the Ask toolbar”, risking that annoying piece of junkware taking over all of your browsers. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/17 "2013-04-22T21:29:34Z")
The only way to be sure is to uninstall it, then go to the Java website and download the latest. Or nuke it from orbit. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/18 "2013-04-22T22:15:04Z")
[QUOTE=jmshannon] Then I found this sight - Straight Dope - when I googled Oracle America, Inc. I’m not taking any chances, too many bogus ones have ruined my computers. I’m not running it. [/QUOTE] You are taking a bigger chance by not running it. 80% of spyware infections come through old versions of either Java or Adobe Reader, so by not updating, you are exposing yourself to more risk of being infected. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/19 "2013-04-22T23:17:38Z")
[I’m having a similar problem.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=688895) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816/20 "2013-04-22T23:23:04Z")
Ooh, this is nasty! I went to my control panel, selected “Uninstall Programs,” my program directory came up, there is a line for “Java 7 Update 17,” publisher “Oracle” – and **I can’t uninstall it!** When I try, it runs for a couple of seconds and then I get the message: “Do you want to allow the following program to update software on your computer?” It seems they have this thing rigged so you can’t uninstall it without authorizing reinfection! :mad: [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oracle-america-inc-juckeck-exe/633816.md?page=2)