# Orange Is the New Black -- Season 2 \[OPEN SPOILERS FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 5, 2014, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orange-is-the-new-black-season-2-open-spoilers-for-the-entire-season/690090 "2014-06-05T02:48:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orange-is-the-new-black-season-2-open-spoilers-for-the-entire-season/690090/161 "2014-07-09T01:07:26Z")
I read this blog post and thought, yeah… could have been written by Suzanne. > **[Dear white adoptive parents](https://resistracism.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/dear-white-adoptive-parents/)** > > I hate everybody, especially you. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orange-is-the-new-black-season-2-open-spoilers-for-the-entire-season/690090/162 "2014-07-09T11:49:42Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > I also think it’s unrealistic that Daya keeps objecting that the baby will be confused or something because Bennett “isn’t the baby’s real father.” What 3-year-old do you know that demands to know if the father figure in his home is his actual real flesh-and-blood dad? Or why would is come up even later? Because kids are cruel to each other, and the stereotypical Spanish community is gossipy as all getout. Growing up, that kid’s bound to be taunted with “your mama got raped in prison, yeah your real dad’s a rapist, neener neener”. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2014, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orange-is-the-new-black-season-2-open-spoilers-for-the-entire-season/690090/163 "2014-07-14T22:57:47Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > We don’t know if her parents didn’t try to get her help. I mean, we can guess they didn’t since she landed behind bars. But then again, there are plenty of crazy people in jail (and in mental hospitals) who received all the early interventions and therapies. Sometimes people just end up deteriorating no matter what you do for them. They do seem involved in her life, visiting her, etc. It seems like the show is implying they made mistake but that they do care. > [@](#): > > (And for all we know, Suzanne may be doing better than expected given her mental issues. She’s very intelligent and finds cool ways to entertain herself, for the most part. And she has managed to avoid the SHU, something Piper hasn’t been able to do. Yes, Suzanne beat up Poussey and punched Piper in the face a couple of times. But Piper beat up Pennsatuckey. She fucked that girl up. So Suzanne isn’t all that bad, comparatively speaking.) > > And as far as a kid talking about death and dragons goes, these are not signs of a mental illness. If a little boy had told the same story that Suzanne had, it wouldn’t have been that unusual. But Suzanne was a 10-year-old at a six-year-old’s slumber party. Little girls like fairy princess stuff. Suzanne was at the age when kids get into Harry Potter and the macabre. That was a typical “fish out of water” scene. Yes, Suzanne doing Shakespeare for the Scared Straight kids is one of my fave moments last season. (Also, her bit with the mop.) It is interesting that the reaction to her seems to range—on another site, commenters were responding that Suzanne was clearly troubled/ill because of how she was with her sister as a baby/the sleepover, but I saw that as more her being different. Clearly, she has mental issues, but I don’t know that what we saw was necessarily a warning sign. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orange-is-the-new-black-season-2-open-spoilers-for-the-entire-season/690090/164 "2014-07-15T14:08:15Z")
I’m surprised by people thinking Suzanne’s problems are racial primarily. Come on, you’ve never seen a pair of do-gooders get way, way in over their heads? They adopted a special needs kid thinking they could totally handle it and they were so excited about it and they were going to save the world! And it turned out that it was a lot more than they could handle, and they couldn’t deal. Seriously, they didn’t let her hold the baby because they didn’t quite trust her, probably for perfectly good reasons. She wasn’t just an adopted child of a different race, she had pre-existing issues. Whether they acted appropriately in trying to deal with them or remained in denial about the whole thing isn’t something we have enough information to determine. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orange-is-the-new-black-season-2-open-spoilers-for-the-entire-season/690090/165 "2014-07-21T22:42:31Z")
Just finished this last night… I thought it was interesting looking at the first season and this one. They really walked back from Mendez being eeeeevil early on (seriously dude was the VILLAIN in most of season 1)and then by the end of the first season making him just kind of crazy. Then firmly planted him in the unlikable but comically enjoyable category for his brief appearances in Season 2. They also walked back on Caputo–season 1 he’s jerking off in his office and then this season he’s the male hero. We ended an episode with the female guard learning that Dya is pregnant and then she apparently doesn’t do anything with that information for a few days and then gets fired without saying anything to anyone. I actually like the Larry and Polly story–once it was clear they were hanging out a lot I knew they’d have sex but I assumed it would have been Larry’s misplaced “revenge” on Piper–I didn’t think it would continue on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orange-is-the-new-black-season-2-open-spoilers-for-the-entire-season/690090.md?page=8)