# Orchestra Conductor **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 23, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orchestra-conductor/616603 "2012-03-23T14:41:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orchestra-conductor/616603/21 "2012-03-25T02:30:13Z")
A musical performance is not about playing the piece _correctly_. If it were, a computer would be able to perform better than any human being. No, a musical performance is all about interpretation. The same piece played by two different musicians would sound completely different. And in the case of an orchestral performance, the conductor _is_ the musician; the orchestra is his/her musical instrument. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orchestra-conductor/616603/22 "2012-04-06T15:53:16Z")
An interesting article from today’s NY Times - [Demystifying Conducting](http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/06/arts/music/the-connection-between-gesture-and-music.html?ref=music): The Connection between gesture and music. Alan Gilbert, of the New York Philharmonic, is shown in motion capture and interview, working on the Grand Chorale from Stravinsky’s ‘A Soldier’s Tale’. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orchestra-conductor/616603/23 "2012-04-06T20:02:39Z")
> [@Kevbo](#): > > The musicians are playing their instruments, the conductor is “playing” the orchestra. The conductor will have a vision of exactly what the piece should sound like, and needs to coax that from each member of the orchestra. A lot of this will be worked out verbally during rehearsal. Much of the conductors motions during performance serve as visual reminders of what the conductor asked for during rehearsal. Speaking as a guy with a BA in Music, that pretty much sums it up. > [@Hazle Weatherfield](#): > > Here’s what baffles me: When the conductor conducts AHEAD of what’s going on. I just can’t wrap my head around that one. Apparently, it’s typical, though. Anyone? This is what is known as “conducting badly.” Most conductors have a specific visual cue to when they think the beat occurs: they change the direction of the cue. So, at the very bottom of the swing, that’s the beat, like dropping a basketball on the ground: when you hear it hit, that’s when the beat is. A less clear conductor “feels” the beat happening some time other than when he shows it via the cue, and the musicians just have to learn to read a little ahead or behind whatever he’s conducting so they play when he wants them to. It’s kinda frustrating, really. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orchestra-conductor/616603/24 "2012-11-28T00:46:00Z")
There was a [story](http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2012/11/27/165677915/do-orchestras-really-need-conductors?ft=1&f=100)about this on NPR today. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orchestra-conductor/616603/25 "2012-11-28T00:56:56Z")
> [@lazybratsche](#): > > (1) is always necessary in some sense, otherwise the musicians will have a hard time keeping together just by what they hear. Especially in larger ensembles, where it takes a nontrivial amount of time for sounds to cross a stage. That delay makes it difficult for the last chair violins to keep tempo with the bass section. Visual cues also allow organic changes in tempo. I think a marching band is one of the few times an average person is going to encounter a situation where the difference between the speed of light and the speed of sound (in air) is actually an issue. When we had really spread out drill, occasionally the people in the very back would have to actually lag behind the conductors by a very small fraction of a second. Very obnoxious. There’s no way we would have figured that out without a conductor there to listen. Though I’ll grant that nobody really consciously slowed down by any specific amount, it was one of those things where the conductor complained we were off and we reflexively ended up trailing the conductor a little bit. The interval is so short you can’t really quantify how much to trail, it’s mostly reflex and muscle memory. ---
**Author:** ![Dfmaestro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ba8739/32.png) [@Dfmaestro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dfmaestro)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orchestra-conductor/616603/26 "2013-01-22T15:18:25Z")
Maestro Carl St. Clair provides some insight into what a conductor is really doing behind and through the gestures. [http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/TEDxOrangeCoast-Carl-St-Clair-I](http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/TEDxOrangeCoast-Carl-St-Clair-I) ---
**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orchestra-conductor/616603/27 "2013-01-22T15:49:30Z")
There is a reality show on Swedish television right now where a number of celebrities compete against each other in conducting. I asked a member of the orchestra how much attention they actually paid to the conductors and he said that they were instructed to follow them blindly, no matter how good or bad they were at it. He also said that last season there had been a girl who had been very good, but it turned out that she had studied music at the university, which may explain it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orchestra-conductor/616603.md?page=1)