# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/201 "2009-10-11T22:40:12Z")

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In his case, I’d settle for Chaotic Neutral.

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/202 "2009-10-11T22:44:48Z")

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Aha! Rich B. IS **Left Hand of Dorkness**.  
[/bows to superior punmanship]

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/203 "2009-10-11T23:37:01Z")

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Thanks, guys! (I too wondered, on seeing the name, if “Buggy Lou” was setup for a pun–but I figured I’d snag the pun before Rich could. Yoink!)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/204 "2009-10-12T02:46:15Z")

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> [@](#):
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> That’s obviously what mind-Shojo wanted him to think. I have my suspicions - namely,that the manipulative old bastard tricked him into developing actual character.

It’s a cliche (which Burlew usually avoids) but Belkar doesn’t know he’s supposedly going to die soon so he could end up faking virtue right up to the point of death.

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/205 "2009-10-12T04:09:34Z")

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Holy crap, my daughter and I were just re-reading the latest strip and I just barely figured out what the “pssssssssssssss” noise, and the “marinade” that Belkar refers to, is. After re-reading that first panel. Jeepers CRIPES.

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**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/206 "2009-10-12T04:22:16Z")

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> [@chorpler](#):
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> Holy crap, my daughter and I were just re-reading the latest strip and I just barely figured out what the “pssssssssssssss” noise, and the “marinade” that Belkar refers to, is. After re-reading that first panel. Jeepers CRIPES.

He’s Chaotic Evil, not Chaotic Nice.

Wait, that actually makes less sense than “Not Lawful Nice.” Nevermind.

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/207 "2009-10-12T04:27:33Z")

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> [@robertliguori](#):
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> He’s Chaotic Evil, not Chaotic Nice.
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> Wait, that actually makes less sense than “Not Lawful Nice.” Nevermind.

Heh heh … well, we have no trouble believing Belkar would do that (even if he is a little cutie with his stealth cloak hood on!), but it’s hilariously gross that Rich Burlew would actually include a scene of him “piss[ing] down [Buggy Lou’s] neck hole.”

ETA: And the guy Belkar “rescued” seems to be quite shocked at what Belkar is doing, also. Heh heh … good times, good times…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/208 "2009-10-12T17:03:56Z")

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Warning: wild ass guessing ahead.

I was thinking about Durkon. Of the six members of the Order, he is the only one would didn’t experience a major event during the seperation which changed his way of living. So I’m figuring he’s due for something. Maybe something foreshadowed in [667](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0667.html).

Moving on from that, the question is why everyone else experienced their life-changing moment while the group was seperated and Durkon presumedly will experience his as part of the group. My assumption is that somehow Durkon’s LCE will involve the group as a whole rather than just him as an individual.

And a wilder surmise is that while everyone’s eyes are on Belkar, Burlew will throw another surprise into the story and fulfill Durkon’s prophecy first. I think it’s very likely that Burlew intends to show the results of all of the Oracle’s prophecies within the storyline and there’s only one way we’ll see Durkon’s coming true.

So my prediction: Durkon is going to die as a result of doing something uncharacteristically foolhearty.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/209 "2009-10-19T23:19:18Z")

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[Roy learned his lesson](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0686.html).

Also, there’s a new [announcement](http://www.giantitp.com/index.html#jiVK0XNj4XIQku3ceeO).

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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/210 "2009-10-19T23:21:35Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> [Roy learned his lesson](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0686.html).
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> Also, there’s a new [announcement](http://www.giantitp.com/index.html#jiVK0XNj4XIQku3ceeO).

That kind of reminds me of Serenity.

If it is Mal instead of Roy, he would ask Harely to shoot the captured townsfolk

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/211 "2009-10-19T23:28:17Z")

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Big damn hero.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/212 "2009-10-20T13:12:40Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> Also, there’s a new [announcement](http://www.giantitp.com/index.html#jiVK0XNj4XIQku3ceeO).

I was hoping for an announcement of the print edition of book four. I hope that comes along soon…

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/213 "2009-10-20T13:15:10Z")

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Sweet! New book soon!

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**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/214 "2009-10-20T13:31:54Z")

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And I just flipped back to that tab and their ad had a covered up OOTS book with October 26 on it so I guess it’ll be available for preorder then.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/215 "2009-10-20T23:14:46Z")

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Is that definitely the OotS book that’s coming? The dead-tree version of Erfworld is due to show up around then, too, and the announcement said they’re publishing it through GitP.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/216 "2009-10-21T02:11:12Z")

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/217 "2009-10-21T02:19:34Z")

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The bottom portion of the book on their homepage looks pink to me, which doesn’t match up with any of the first three or prequel books. On the other hand, I don’t know how well my monitor is calibrated (but it’s probably not _that_ bad). The tiny bit of the cover image that’s visible also doesn’t match up with the books I have, so I’m thinking that maybe it is a new book. I figured Burlew would want to get it out before Christmas, but I’ll be a little surprised if it’s this early.

ETA: Also the author name is Rich Burlew, which kinda precludes its being an Erfworld book.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/218 "2009-10-21T02:53:44Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Is that definitely the OotS book that’s coming? The dead-tree version of Erfworld is due to show up around then, too, and the announcement said they’re publishing it through GitP.

Probably – the latest news on the Erfworld site is that their book is expected in January/February.

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/219 "2009-10-21T03:21:00Z")

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I just want to say, I have empirical evidence that visiting TVTropes and reading their OotS page is a very bad idea. At least if you have anything else you need to get done in a particular 12 hour period. But it was entertaining. 😃

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/220 "2009-10-24T18:10:20Z")

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New strip is up!

Whoops, forgot the link: [687 Actually, That's Probably You - Giant in the Playground Games](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0687.html)

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