# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/221 "2009-10-24T18:49:14Z")
Belkar is… a work in progress. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/222 "2009-10-24T18:50:20Z")
I am absolutely convinced that the strip creator is building us up to a point where Belkar does something completely and utterly altruistic (tho he may do so to keep the world from being destroyed, or at least that would be his rationalization). ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/223 "2009-10-24T18:51:30Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > I am absolutely convinced that the strip creator is building us up to a point where Belkar does something completely and utterly altruistic (tho he may do so to keep the world from being destroyed, or at least that would be his rationalization). He already killed the slavers just to save Mr. Scruffy. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/224 "2009-10-24T18:55:29Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Belkar is… a work in progress. Like Duke Nuke’m Forever? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/225 "2009-10-24T18:56:26Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > I am absolutely convinced that the strip creator is building us up to a point where Belkar does something completely and utterly altruistic (tho he may do so to keep the world from being destroyed, or at least that would be his rationalization). And then he’ll die, and end up in Valhalla - where he can fight forever. ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/226 "2009-10-24T20:06:33Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > And then he’ll die, and end up in Valhalla - where he can fight forever. He’ll probably wind up [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_War). Something I’ve been wondering. Now that Roy has been accepted to heaven and been resurrected, will he get back there regardless or has his judgement begun again? Does the D&D rules say anything about judgement in the afterlife? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/227 "2009-10-24T21:06:47Z")
> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#): > > He’ll probably wind up [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_War). > > Something I’ve been wondering. Now that Roy has been accepted to heaven and been resurrected, will he get back there regardless or has his judgement begun again? Does the D&D rules say anything about judgement in the afterlife? There’s nothing in the official rulebook but I think it’s safe to say that if he did an alignment change he’d be evaluated again when he died. Personally I feel sorry for any afterlife that Belkar winds up in. He’ll be running the place in three months tops. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/228 "2009-10-24T21:15:00Z")
> [@ultrafilter](#): > > He already killed the slavers just to save Mr. Scruffy. Murdering bad guys isn’t altruistic for Belkar. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/229 "2009-10-24T21:19:30Z")
> [@Just\_Some\_Guy](#): > > Personally I feel sorry for any afterlife that Belkar winds up in. He’ll be running the place in three months tops. You can just see Demogorgon looking over the immigration lists, stopping wide-eyed, and whispering, “Shit!” ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/230 "2009-10-24T21:57:08Z")
Heh. Check out the strip title ( on the left ), and then read the last panel again if you missed it. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/231 "2009-10-24T22:04:33Z")
> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#): > > He’ll probably wind up [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_War). > > Something I’ve been wondering. Now that Roy has been accepted to heaven and been resurrected, will he get back there regardless or has his judgement begun again? Does the D&D rules say anything about judgement in the afterlife? There was a strip when Roy was in heaven that showed the “returning guest” entrance used by heroes who die a lot. Entry through that door was a lot less formal than through the big gates. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/232 "2009-10-25T00:00:49Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Heh. Check out the strip title ( on the left ), and then read the last panel again if you missed it. I generally love how Burlew works in the strip title, but that one was pure gold – second biggest laugh in there (after “Trying!”). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/233 "2009-10-26T03:14:07Z")
The strip title often only makes sense with the last panel, though I don’t have time to dig up other examples right now. And Belkar’s not the type to take over anywhere-- That’s too organized for him. Besides, he’s a halfling of simple pleasures: As long as he gets a few whores and can murder a couple of folks a day, plus torment a few more, he’s happy. He’ll probably end up as the Lower Planes equivalent of a sergeant, and then leave it there for lack of higher ambition. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/234 "2009-10-26T04:03:24Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > The strip title often only makes sense with the last panel, though I don’t have time to dig up other examples right now. > > And Belkar’s not the type to take over anywhere-- That’s too organized for him. Besides, he’s a halfling of simple pleasures: As long as he gets a few whores and can murder a couple of folks a day, plus torment a few more, he’s happy. He’ll probably end up as the Lower Planes equivalent of a sergeant, and then leave it there for lack of higher ambition. I’m picturing more of a situation where he winds up running the place by default after the gruesome murders of every archfiend. The kind of thing where he spends four or five hours killing his way up the ladder to a point where no one bothers him any more. Besides giving orders to Belkar is a scenario that will not end well for those above him. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/235 "2009-10-26T04:30:53Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > The strip title often only makes sense with the last panel, though I don’t have time to dig up other examples right now. [Here’s one](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0645.html); the strip title is _It’s Where the Cool Kids Swim_. Another would be [this](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0244.html); the title is \*What? It’s a Legitimate Magic Item \*. ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/236 "2009-10-26T07:57:17Z")
:tapping fingers impatiently: It’s October 26th, already, why is the book title still hidden? :continuing to tap fingers impatiently: ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/237 "2009-10-26T14:32:31Z")
Yeah, I’m wondering the same thing, darnit. WHERE’S THE BOOK?! The teaser image on the front page is titled “slideshow\_DPtP\_teaser.gif”. I wonder if the DPtP is an abbreviation for the title of the book. The P’s would fit the “it probably has party in the title” speculations… ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/238 "2009-10-26T14:39:54Z")
Blast, Rich says there’s a typo in that filename, so it doesn’t help clue-wise. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/239 "2009-10-26T20:05:56Z")
**Don’t Split the Party**. Hooray! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/240 "2009-10-26T20:08:39Z")
And the name is … _Don’t Split The Party_ (Is that a joke? Most of the titles are puns on famous movie or book titles. What does this refer to? I don’t get it.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=13)