# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2522 "2011-09-13T17:28:32Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> [Yes](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0724.html), three of his children as mentioned in the middle right panel.

Ummm…maybe that’s just a cover story Nale and Malack came up with so Tarquin doesn’t suspect their alliance?

Okay, I’ll admit that’s weak.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2523 "2011-09-15T08:48:31Z")

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New strip  
[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0805.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0805.html)

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2524 "2011-09-15T09:21:08Z")

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Ha, I loved the sloth.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2525 "2011-09-15T09:31:22Z")

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Dammit!! Now I want my very own celestial tree sloth and I’m going to be vaguely dissatisfied until I get one. Also, nice twist to a couple of running gags! Also, Durkon! Finally! I smell three very special words in the immediate future:

Sneak Attack, Bitch!

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2526 "2011-09-15T11:46:54Z")

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Hey! Flumphs are good. They can’t be lawyers.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2527 "2011-09-15T12:11:53Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> Hey! Flumphs are good. They can’t be lawyers.

I think these particular flumphs have been disillusioned and turned to the dark side by the capricious humor of the gods. And multiple hurtling adventurers.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2528 "2011-09-15T16:22:17Z")

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Yay, Haley lands right in front of the Dwarf that can un-stone her, simultaneously smacking annoying lawyers.

Boy, Elan is going to have a bunch of levels to get ‘healed’.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2529 "2011-09-15T16:52:02Z")

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Did I miss something? Why did Haley revert to normal size while she fell? Did the sizing spell wear off at that ultra-convenient time?

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**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2530 "2011-09-15T16:58:17Z")

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> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#):
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> Did I miss something? Why did Haley revert to normal size while she fell? Did the sizing spell wear off at that ultra-convenient time?

[“When you find the dwarf, simply throw the figurine onto a firm surface to restore its normal size.”](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0790.html)

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2531 "2011-09-15T19:15:16Z")

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I guess the side of a tower is a “firm surface”. Huh.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2532 "2011-09-15T19:42:53Z")

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> [@cckerberos](#):
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> [“When you find the dwarf, simply throw the figurine onto a firm surface to restore its normal size.”](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0790.html)

Ummmm… playing a little fast and loose with the actual rules, isn’t he?

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2533 "2011-09-16T00:37:01Z")

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I know she was growing before she landed, but she did land on a (law) firm substance. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2534 "2011-09-16T00:40:37Z")

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> [@Wolverine](#):
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> I know she was growing before she landed, but she did land on a (law) firm substance. 🙂

Ouch.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2535 "2011-09-16T00:42:51Z")

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> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#):
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> Ummmm… playing a little fast and loose with the actual rules, isn’t he?

You’ve been reading the same strip the rest of us have, yes?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2536 "2011-09-16T00:46:50Z")

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No, that’s pretty much how Shrink Item really does work.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2537 "2011-09-16T01:34:05Z")

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It doesn’t actually seem very likely that a dropped object would hit the wall on the way down.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2538 "2011-09-16T01:53:39Z")

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She wasn’t just dropped, she was violently jostled out of his pocket. It’s pretty unlikely that she would drop straight down, as opposed to following some sort of a parabolic arc. And since the force that knocked her out of her pocket hit him on a vector aimed at the wall, the arc should head towards the wall, as well.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2539 "2011-09-16T14:01:36Z")

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I wonder what’s in Haley’s left hand? A potion? Whatever it is, it was also depicted in her hand in #789. I don’t think it’s a bag of holding, since she dropped one that the Kobold found later. In any case, she appears to not have her bow, so she may not be much immediate help to Elan or Durkon.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2540 "2011-09-16T14:10:59Z")

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Even if she doesn’t have her bow, Durkon is now able to participate in the combat through spells. As a cleric, will he have any special advantages against Sabine?

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2541 "2011-09-16T14:35:16Z")

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Yes: he can Turn her or banish her.

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