# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 136
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2702 "2011-10-24T23:22:34Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > The Destruction domain isn’t automatically Evil either - both of those settings also have minor CN gods of impulsive warfare and generally fucking shit up for fun rather than out of outright malice. > Death AND Destruction together though ? Yeaaah that’s bad news and screams Evil, since pretty much the only way you’re getting both of them in your portfolio is if your stated purpose is “I’d like to bring about the destruction of all life pl0x, kthxbye”. I’d be happy to hear about any counter-example though. For what it’s worth, Lawful Neutral priests and monks can worship Yurtrus by _“overseeing the food stocks of the tribe, determining when the meat is rotten or too much water too polluted to be swallowed”_ in between offering up _“prayers and sacrifices to save an individual or a tribe from the ravages of disease.”_ So the point is redirecting that god’s domains, sacrificing _ **others** _ to keep death and destruction at bay for your _ **own** _ people – which isn’t Good, but can count as Neutral rather than Evil. > **[Yurtrus](https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Yurtrus)** > > Yurtrus (pronounced: /ˈjɛrtrʌs/ YER-truss\[2\]) was the orcish god of death and disease, a constant terror that silently waited for their demise.\[2\] The vile god was a counterpart to Shargaas,\[4\] for while the Night Lord symbolized the fear... ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2703 "2011-10-24T23:41:37Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Forgotten Realms Halflings even have an[LG god of death](http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Urogalan), however the fuck that works. If you figure that the afterlife is all about judgment and forgiveness, then sure, why not? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2704 "2011-10-25T01:44:30Z")
Most of the jokes about real world things are funny because the implications for Stickverse make some form of twisted sense. I fail to see how the captcha makes any sense as an anti-shapeshifter action. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2705 "2011-10-25T01:59:41Z")
I don’t play D&D, but maybe weeding out impersonating automatons of some sort? EDIT: Or maybe that genre savvy instruction book for guards just tells them to never respond to the CAPTCHA as written. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2706 "2011-10-25T11:29:29Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > If you figure that the afterlife is all about judgment and forgiveness, then sure, why not? That’s typically not on the death gods’ to-do list though. They preoccupy themselves with the actual dying part, i.e. wrenching your soul from its mortal coil, making sure your remains stay nice and buried (or, for the more evil ones, making sure your remains are put to “good” use, waste not want not) and making sure your soul ends up…wherever it’s penned down to end up. Whatever goes on next is up to your patron god, the guy who runs your alignment’s plane and so forth. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2707 "2011-10-25T11:49:48Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Forgotten Realms Halflings even have an[LG god of death](http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Urogalan), however the fuck that works. To be precise: Urogalan himself is LN, but can have LG priests. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2708 "2011-10-25T12:11:29Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > To be precise: Urogalan himself is LN, but can have LG priests. Oh yeah, the priest alignment wheel threw me since it’s LN/LG/NG like an LG god would have. Weird dude. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2709 "2011-10-25T12:47:38Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > Most of the jokes about real world things are funny because the implications for Stickverse make some form of twisted sense. I fail to see how the captcha makes any sense as an anti-shapeshifter action. In real life it’s used to identify that it’s an actual person, so not good vs. shapeshifters… maybe in the Stickverse it’ll identify illusions? ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2710 "2011-10-26T16:57:12Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > A further thought: where are Malack’s children? Malack is a high-level cleric, and Tarquin can certainly get a diamond whenever he wants. The panel where we find about about their deaths gives the impression (at least to me) that they’re still dead. I’m wondering if clerics of death gods aren’t allowed to Raise Dead (or at least have a philosophical problem with it). Well someone on the OOTS forum posted a thread of links to the Giant’s comments- [so that answers my question](http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4465010&postcount=551). At least in part. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2711 "2011-10-27T06:05:35Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > In real life it’s used to identify that it’s an actual person, so not good vs. shapeshifters… maybe in the Stickverse it’ll identify illusions? Maybe succubi (or whatever she is) are colour blind ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2712 "2011-10-27T20:44:44Z")
The running gag on just what sort of outsider she is has been resolved: She’s definitely a succubus, and vulnerable to cold iron. There’s still some debate about her alignment, though, in that succubi are listed as “always chaotic evil”, but she seems more lawful. Even the “always” alignment descriptors still allow for one-in-a-million exceptions, though. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2713 "2011-10-27T20:54:27Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > The running gag on just what sort of outsider she is has been resolved: She’s definitely a succubus, and vulnerable to cold iron. There’s still some debate about her alignment, though, in that succubi are listed as “always chaotic evil”, but she seems more lawful. Even the “always” alignment descriptors still allow for one-in-a-million exceptions, though. She’s also working for the fiendish triumvirate that’s attempting to get the three fiendish species to work together. If she is a LE succubus, it makes a certain amount of sense that she’d end up working for those guys. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2714 "2011-10-28T21:16:23Z")
I just read all 812 entries of the giantitpcom Order of the stick. How often are new episodes posted? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2715 "2011-10-28T21:23:45Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I just read all 812 entries of the giantitpcom Order of the stick. > > How often are new episodes posted? Irregularly. The author has a nonlethal but apparently serious medical condition that unpredictably lays him out. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2716 "2011-10-28T21:57:09Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I just read all 812 entries of the giantitpcom Order of the stick. > > How often are new episodes posted? Mathematically, there have been 812 episodes and it started 8 years and 1 month ago. That puts an average update at every 3.6 days. But the statistical deviation from that swings wildly like the time a few months ago when he went about 6-7 weeks without an update. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2717 "2011-10-28T22:06:36Z")
3-4 times a month, at best. Used to be a lot more brisk as **Enderw24** said. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2718 "2011-10-28T22:25:14Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I just read all 812 entries of the giantitpcom Order of the stick. > > How often are new episodes posted? Yep. You just got yourself hooked on an irregularly-updated webcomic. With this one, though, the wait is usually worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2719 "2011-11-04T19:09:01Z")
And the wait is over [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0813.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0813.html) And the next wait begins. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2720 "2011-11-04T19:34:15Z")
Not often that you see Belkar doing a better job of facing than Roy. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2721 "2011-11-04T19:37:24Z")
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