# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 137
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2722 "2011-11-04T20:19:38Z")
So, Tarquin has long-term plans, eh? ::strokes chin thoughtfully:: Verrrrrrrrrry interesting … ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2723 "2011-11-04T21:50:10Z")
I still stand by my assertion that Tarquin will be dead within a few strips. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2724 "2011-11-04T22:27:25Z")
> [@shantih](#): > > So, Tarquin has long-term plans, eh? ::strokes chin thoughtfully:: Verrrrrrrrrry interesting … Aren’t we already in on his long term plans of building a stable continent-wide trium-empire ? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2725 "2011-11-05T05:00:50Z")
I like how he lampshaded the “is Thog really dead” question. Answer: no, until we hear otherwise, Thog is not dead. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2726 "2011-11-05T05:09:01Z")
On the other hand, though, given that he’s already decided to announce Thog’s death, it would be ever so much cleaner to kill him immediately, if he is still alive when they dig him up. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2727 "2011-11-05T05:28:14Z")
I like Roy’s response: “Oh.” Like he knows the Rules Of Drama dictate Thog isn’t dead, and there’s not a damn thing he can do about it now. After that huge fight. Oh. ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2728 "2011-11-05T12:07:53Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Aren’t we already in on his long term plans of building a stable continent-wide trium-empire ? True, true. But Roy is now placed to see exactly what Tarquin is really up to, and I doubt that we’ve been told everything just yet. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2729 "2011-11-05T12:12:44Z")
> [@shantih](#): > > So, Tarquin has long-term plans, eh? ::strokes chin thoughtfully:: Verrrrrrrrrry interesting … > [@Kobal2](#): > > Aren’t we already in on his long term plans of building a stable continent-wide trium-empire ? Tarquin’s ULTIMATE plan is to find someone who can defeat him in spectacular fashion, so that he will become a legend, and his name shall live forever. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2730 "2011-11-05T22:40:23Z")
But in the meantime, if he can live like a god for as long as possible, that’s even better. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2731 "2011-11-11T14:21:24Z")
It’s up! [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0814.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0814.html) ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2732 "2011-11-11T14:22:53Z")
Is there more to Ian’s incarceration than we know? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2733 "2011-11-11T15:15:57Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Tarquin’s ULTIMATE plan is to find someone who can defeat him in spectacular fashion, so that he will become a legend, and his name shall live forever. But what he doesn’t know is that by entangling himself with the Order, he’s become a secondary villain. He’s no longer the main antagonist of his own story. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2734 "2011-11-11T15:45:59Z")
And Belkar once again commits a genuinely altruistic act. > [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > Is there more to Ian’s incarceration than we know? Such as what? What about the strip makes you think that? ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2735 "2011-11-11T15:50:00Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > And Belkar once again commits a genuinely altruistic act. > > Such as what? What about the strip makes you think that? My recollection is that he got himself thrown in jail to recruit dissenters from within. Why should he look familiar to Tarquin on that basis? ---
**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2736 "2011-11-11T16:14:53Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > And Belkar once again commits a genuinely altruistic act. Well, a genuinely **helpful** act, anyway. At **best** that was helping the group, and by extension, himself. This is an improvement, but only because he’s set the bar so low. – Progress from ‘stupid gamer’ evil to just regular evil is still progress. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2737 "2011-11-11T18:52:18Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > Is there more to Ian’s incarceration than we know? There’s probably the information in Ian’s files about him being Haley’s father (somebody wrote her the ransom note after all even if it was a past regime). If Tarquin saw this, he’d realize there must be a connection between Roy and Belkar and Haley and the others. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2738 "2011-11-11T19:46:11Z")
There’s also been the implication floating around that Bozzok is paying Geoff to keep Ian out of the picture, and that’s why his escapes keep failing. Tarquin may well be involved with that. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2739 "2011-11-11T23:30:56Z")
I think Ian was being really rude. For all his faults, I’ve never seen Tarquin act abominably toward someone on the basis of their face alone. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2740 "2011-11-12T00:12:48Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I think Ian was being really rude. For all his faults, I’ve never seen Tarquin act abominably toward someone on the basis of their face alone. 🙂 That typo was annoying me, too. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/2741 "2011-11-12T02:26:21Z")
Really, how can you be a facist in their world? Everyone’s got basically the same one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=136) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=138)