# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/261 "2009-11-05T23:37:09Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > [“Sorry for the delays, it’s been a tough week.”](http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130710) is all he said on the OOTS forum. Well, dagnabbit. I’ve been checking back for the new comic fairly obsessively, but I thought maybe he was taking a breather after getting the book underway. I’m not familiar with _Dune_ except through the movie, which I saw once about a million years ago and only to drink in Sting’s glorious presence, and no, I do not want to hear about it. I assume the title is a _Dune_ ref? ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/262 "2009-11-05T23:53:05Z")
> [@shantih](#): > > I’m not familiar with _Dune_ except through the movie, which I saw once about a million years ago and only to drink in Sting’s glorious presence, and no, I do not want to hear about it. I assume the title is a _Dune_ ref? Yes, it’s a reference to the phrase “The spice must flow.” Without spice interstellar travel will cease and all spice addicts will die, so the ends justify the means. ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/263 "2009-11-06T00:01:48Z")
Ah! Got it, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/264 "2009-11-10T01:47:49Z")
[New strip!](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0689.html) At least Belkar’s consistent. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/265 "2009-11-10T02:00:27Z")
“Awesome! Now we can just hightail it out of here while it stares lovingly at us.” “Just like when we dropped Grandma Bitterleaf off at the nursing home!” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/266 "2009-11-10T02:01:11Z")
Who needs a wormhook? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/267 "2009-11-10T02:20:08Z")
Belkar has gotten awesome really fast. When he was a completely sociopathic jerk I didn’t care much for him, but this sliiight shift toward working with the group has really made him shine. ---
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/268 "2009-11-10T02:39:43Z")
Looks like Mr. Scruffy isn’t fond of Durkon. Not surprising, since the cat seems totally in tune with the halfling. Vaarsuvius is really quite the wizard. That thing’s gotta have plenty of hit dice–Isn’t Charm Monster success based off the difference between the monster’s HD and the caster’s level? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/269 "2009-11-10T02:54:28Z")
> [@Saltire](#): > > Looks like Mr. Scruffy isn’t fond of Durkon. Not surprising, since the cat seems totally in tune with the halfling. I think Mr. Scruffy just doesn’t like flying. Or worms. ---
**Author:** ![Randy\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee7513/32.png) [@Randy\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randy_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/270 "2009-11-10T02:55:12Z")
I hope everyone caught the reference to the [greatest music video ever conceived](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZbckwYY9r4). ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/271 "2009-11-10T03:14:06Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I think Mr. Scruffy just doesn’t like flying. Or worms. If you were a cat, would you like worms? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/272 "2009-11-10T03:45:35Z")
So, Roy still has the ring of jumping. I’d have thought Belkar would have retrieved it from his corpse. Or at least demanded it’s return when Roy came back. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/273 "2009-11-10T05:19:58Z")
> [@](#): > > Vaarsuvius is really quite the wizard. That thing’s gotta have plenty of hit dice–Isn’t Charm Monster success based off the difference between the monster’s HD and the caster’s level? Not in 3.x. Save DCs do scale with monster HD, but a thing like that probably has a poor Will save progression. Charm Monster is exactly the right sort of spell to use against it. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/274 "2009-11-10T15:54:59Z")
> [@Saltire](#): > > Not surprising, since the cat seems totally in tune with the halfling. Well one comes from a position of pure malevolence that masquerades as being friendly to get what it wants and the other is a psychotic halfling so it’s no surprise they get along… ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/275 "2009-11-10T17:49:30Z")
… y’all realize it’s a Purple Worm, right? [Purple Worm :: d20srd.org](http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/purpleWorm.htm) Will save of +4, yep. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/276 "2009-11-10T20:30:19Z")
This strip shows yet again that Roys wisdom is greater than V’s. V can charm the monster but doesn’t see beyond the immediate problem or how it might be a resource. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/277 "2009-11-10T21:10:15Z")
> [@Just\_Some\_Guy](#): > > Well one comes from a position of pure malevolence that masquerades as being friendly to get what it wants and the other is a psychotic halfling so it’s no surprise they get along… Nicely done. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/278 "2009-11-10T21:19:01Z")
I called it.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/279 "2009-11-12T02:11:11Z")
[New comic!](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0690.html) Heading towards the next major plot point AND a “bow chicka wow” moment at the same time! ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/280 "2009-11-12T02:59:43Z")
I liked the Dune reference. And that Belkar is cheering for the bad guy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=15)