# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 203
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4042 "2012-03-16T20:19:51Z")
Okay, “If I asked you how to get to the Gate from here and you were feeling helpful, what are the exact words you would tell me?” ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4043 "2012-03-16T20:22:15Z")
I guess Haley’s approach to this kind of dilemma wouldn’t work so well with someone who’s already dead (and not even animated). ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4044 "2012-03-23T02:23:45Z")
[New strip up](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0846.html). Not seeing a great deal of plot movement in this one. Although it occurs to me, given their Raise Dead troubles, that this could be an interesting time for Durkon’s old flame to show up again. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4045 "2012-03-23T02:34:16Z")
Yeah, I don’t think the gate is actually up his ass, though Roy is correct in searching it. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4046 "2012-03-23T14:04:02Z")
Ah, c’mon, Roy; even I got “beneath his own feet” before the click, and I never get anything. You’re supposed to be the smart one. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4047 "2012-03-23T15:00:39Z")
So, Scruffy has been using the kobolds mouth as litter box ever since he was dominated, and plans to continue to do so? Ouch. ---
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4048 "2012-03-23T15:54:24Z")
I had temporarily forgotten the kobold. He’ll be back in control of his own body anytime now, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4049 "2012-03-23T16:53:36Z")
> [@Saltire](#): > > I had temporarily forgotten the kobold. He’ll be back in control of his own body anytime now, I guess. Well, Dominate Person lasts 1 day/level. Has it been two weeks since he was first dominated? ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4050 "2012-03-23T17:41:44Z")
Eek. Ugh. (Now that this thread is up again, [here’s my own OOTS strip](http://www.flickr.com/photos/9624983@N05/7003151663/) I made this week). ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4051 "2012-03-23T18:07:22Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Eek. Ugh. > > (Now that this thread is up again, [here’s my own OOTS strip](http://www.flickr.com/photos/9624983@N05/7003151663/) I made this week). I love it! The minion/minyan pun is one of my old standbys… ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4052 "2012-03-23T18:10:00Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > Well, Dominate Person lasts 1 day/level. Has it been two weeks since he was first dominated? To be a total freakin’ pedant about it, you must spend 1 round/day concentrating on the spell, or else it ends (just looked it up for my own character, so I’m familiar with it). Depending on what happens to V, that obscure and little-noticed limit could come into play. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4053 "2012-03-23T19:37:47Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > Well, Dominate Person lasts 1 day/level. Has it been two weeks since he was first dominated? Apart from V’s current state, what’s to stop him from simply casting Domination again? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4054 "2012-03-23T20:17:39Z")
Nothing. The target would get a save against the new casting, but Yukyuk’s Will save is probably pretty bad. And V could just cast it repeatedly to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4055 "2012-03-30T21:30:36Z")
[New one’s up!](http://http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0847.html) Also, ouchie. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4056 "2012-03-30T21:37:08Z")
The plot, as they say, is about to thicken. ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4057 "2012-03-30T22:31:03Z")
And here is a link that will not try and open a file on your computer. [Comic](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0847.html) ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2012, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4058 "2012-03-31T09:27:02Z")
> [@Lok](#): > > And here is a link that will not try and open a file on your computer. [Comic](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0847.html) Oh, bugger. Sorry about that! ETA: I blame Nale. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4059 "2012-04-01T11:59:55Z")
Is _Empowered Vitriolic Sphere_ a DnD spell? I don’t recall coming across it before. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4060 "2012-04-01T12:22:32Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Is _Empowered Vitriolic Sphere_ a DnD spell? I don’t recall coming across it before. _Vitriolic Sphere_ is a spell. [_Empower_](http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#empowerSpell) is a Metamagic modifier to a spell. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4061 "2012-04-02T02:05:50Z")
Appropos of nothing recent, my newest wild theory involves everyone’s favorite unfired Checkov’s gun, Right-Eye’s daughter: In a world where humans and goblins hate each other that much, it must take a special sort of human couple to bring up an orphan goblin as their own. R.E.'s daughter’s adoptive family must be really into peace and tolerance. Growing up in such a household, the daughter would end up with a nearly-unique perspective on interspecies relationships. Thus, my prediction: what Redcloak and the Drak One fail to achieve with threats and extortion, Redcloak’s niece will ultimately achieve by peaceful means. Using your words instead of your fists, as they say in second grade. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=202) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=204)