# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 204
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4062 "2012-04-02T02:34:12Z")
We can’t assume that the Dark One is completely behind Redcloak’s plan. We saw that the Dark One was willing to use peaceful negotiation and live alongside other races. It may just be Redcloak who thinks the plan requires war. The Dark One’s message to Redcloak was “Don’t screw this up.” Redcloak assumed this meant don’t screw up the execution of the Plan. But it could mean the Dark One feels that the Plan itself is screwing up relations between goblins and other races. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4063 "2012-04-02T02:51:26Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Is _Empowered Vitriolic Sphere_ a DnD spell? I don’t recall coming across it before. Vitriolic Sphere is from Complete Arcane. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4064 "2012-04-02T19:00:00Z")
There’s been no mention of Right-Eye’s daughter outside of the Start of Darkness book, has there? I’d be very surprised (and more than a little pissed) if the conclusion to the story revolved around something that had only ever been mentioned in tertiary material. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4065 "2012-04-02T19:04:45Z")
Presumably, she’d be introduced in the online comic before that happened. He’s said that the prequel books aren’t necessary, and that if anything from them becomes relevant, he’ll introduce it online, too. See, for example, the Greysky Thieves’ Guild. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4066 "2012-04-03T18:26:44Z")
So…without their mage, the Order of the Stick is pretty much boned right now, aren’t they? It looks like the bad guys can just attack from range and I doubt archery is going to do much to help in this situation. Even with V around, they’d probably be fighting out of their weight class against Tarquin and Maleck. Unless there’s some Draketooth traps left over to even the battlefield, I assume running and hiding is their best option? And this is \* before \* Xykon shows up. Although it would be fun to see a brawl between Xykon and the Linear Guild. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4067 "2012-04-03T18:45:09Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > So…without their mage, the Order of the Stick is pretty much boned right now, aren’t they? It looks like the bad guys can just attack from range and I doubt archery is going to do much to help in this situation. Well, they can just go inside the temple and set up a defense. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4068 "2012-04-03T21:00:14Z")
Ugh! Roy’s right: for once, can the Linear Guild show up when the OOTS isn’t caught off-guard, at a disadvantage, or otherwise handicapped? So frustrating! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4069 "2012-04-03T21:10:45Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > Although it would be fun to see a brawl between Xykon and the Linear Guild. I’m expecting that Team Evil will show up, requiring the Order of the Stick and the Linear Guild to call a temporary truce and cooperate, to be followed by a sudden and inevitable betrayal. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4070 "2012-04-04T17:11:05Z")
Will there be dinosaurs? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4071 "2012-04-04T17:20:25Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > Ugh! Roy’s right: for once, can the Linear Guild show up when the OOTS isn’t caught off-guard, at a disadvantage, or otherwise handicapped? So frustrating! :mad: The first time the LG showed up, the OoTS was just dumb and overly trusting. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4072 "2012-04-04T18:37:21Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > The first time the LG showed up, the OoTS was just dumb and overly trusting. As was said. Handicapped. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4073 "2012-04-04T20:41:04Z")
> [@](#): > > Will there be dinosaurs? There already are. Didn’t you see Tarquin’s mount? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4074 "2012-04-05T19:40:41Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > There already are. Didn’t you see Tarquin’s mount? Pterosaurs aren’t dinosaurs. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4075 "2012-04-05T20:06:04Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Pterosaurs aren’t dinosaurs. Neither are brontosaurs, but that’s not going to stop Tarquin. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4076 "2012-04-05T20:28:03Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Pterosaurs aren’t dinosaurs. OotS is in a D&D world, and I believe that Pterosaurs were traditionally listed under the “Dinosaurs” in _Monster Manuals_. So, here, they are dinosaurs. (as are Brontosaurs.) … Although I see some pedant-gone-mad apparently notes the distinction in the Pathfinder SRD. Which is one of those times that being right just seems wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4077 "2012-04-05T20:41:56Z")
It’s things like that that a pedantasaurus wrecks. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4078 "2012-04-06T14:01:34Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > It’s things like that that a pedantasaurus wrecks. Slowly I turn . . . step by step . . . inch by inch . . . ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4079 "2012-04-06T14:50:07Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Neither are brontosaurs, but that’s not going to stop Tarquin. Brontosaurs don’t exist. But when they did, they were dinosaurs 🙂 > [@Lightray](#): > > OotS is in a D&D world, and I believe that Pterosaurs were traditionally listed under the “Dinosaurs” in _Monster Manuals_. So, here, they are dinosaurs. …and they call _me_ the pedant? ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4080 "2012-04-06T15:13:45Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > It’s things like that that a pedantasaurus wrecks. The Pedantasaurus rose to power in the the Cambridgian Period. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4081 "2012-04-06T16:33:17Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Neither are brontosaurs, but that’s not going to stop Tarquin. “Isn’t a Brontosaurus just an Apatosaurus with the head of a different dinosaur?” “And a hippogriff is just a horse with the head and wings of a bird, but I’ve still got eight squadrons mounted on the damn things.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=203) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=205)