# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4302 "2012-05-27T04:38:52Z")

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> [@Gagundathar](#):
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> Nice double-cross.  
> Wait… triple-cross?
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> Hmmmmm…

No, I think this was just old-fashioned character development.

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4303 "2012-05-27T05:14:55Z")

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That’s just what Burlew wants you to think!  
Bwahaha

OK, yeah, you’re probably right.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4304 "2012-05-30T14:41:55Z")

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From the latest Kickstarter [update](http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/599092525/the-order-of-the-stick-reprint-drive/posts/236403) for OOTS, roughly 17 hours ago:

> [@](#):
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> That’s it for now.\*\* I hope to squeeze out a new comic between now and Thursday\*\*, [Emphasis added] because no one will probably hear from me for at least a week after that.

So that’ll be nice, if it turns out.

I am disappointed at how easily Tarquin is handing the Order their ass. Doesn’t give one a lot of faith in their ability to handle Xykon, et al, if Tarquin is able to solo them (- V, but still).

Many questions have come to my mind in the last few strips. I wonder when and if Ian and Geoff will make an appearance in the tomb. Wasn’t Ian the head of the Thieves’ Guild in Greysky City? If so, another high level thief might help turn the tide for the Order. I also wonder if Tarquin is going to have to call on the rest of _his_ party when Xykon shows up? If so, he’d have to teleport out or have some sort of bat-signal to teleport them in.

Still waiting for Kilkil to do something cheesy and Belkar-splattering. I also wonder who is going to discover V and Blackwing, and if so, whether there’ll be any additional plot fallout from Familicide? I wonder what the ultimate defense of this Gate will be, or if they all went away with the death of the Draketooth clan? I wonder if this will be it for Nale and Sabine, and if so, how the tension between her job as a succubus and working for the IFCC (?) and her love for Nale, will be resolved.

Finally, I wonder how Tarquin will resolve the conflict between Malack’s desire to kill/soulbind/eternally torture Nale and his own love for his son. After all, if they just wanted the info out of Nale’s head, I think an Evil Overlord and a high priest of Death can think of many ways to convince Nale to give it up. Quickly. So, Tarquin must be keeping Nale around for some other reason.

I think this [poster’s comment](http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13295647&postcount=40) at the OOTS boards makes a lot of sense. I agree with the poster in that I don’t think Tarquin can keep both people around much longer, but then again, T is a master manipulator and strategist.

Looking forward to the next comic. Hopefully it will be soon.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4305 "2012-05-30T14:47:13Z")

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And as a spin-off on the previous: has anybody gotten their loot from the Kickstarter campaign yet? I know I won’t get mine for a few months yet, since I sprung for a lot of extras, but how about those who went for a basic package? Any arrived yet?

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4306 "2012-05-30T15:05:27Z")

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nothing yet, and I think mine should be ready to despatch.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4307 "2012-05-30T15:21:10Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> And as a spin-off on the previous: has anybody gotten their loot from the Kickstarter campaign yet? I know I won’t get mine for a few months yet, since I sprung for a lot of extras, but how about those who went for a basic package? Any arrived yet?

I got the fridge magnet. It’s the only physical goodie I sprung for, so.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4308 "2012-05-30T15:33:21Z")

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I got nuthin yet. (I did the basic $45 pledge, no additional stuff requested.)

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**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4309 "2012-05-30T15:39:52Z")

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I got the coloring book, hit point pad, fridge magnet, stickers and something else. I don’t remember what level I was at.

What I haven’t seen, and want more, is the PDFs of Dim Sun and the background stuff! Ah, well. Patience, virtue. Or something like that.

vislor

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4310 "2012-05-30T17:14:23Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> And as a spin-off on the previous: has anybody gotten their loot from the Kickstarter campaign yet? I know I won’t get mine for a few months yet, since I sprung for a lot of extras, but how about those who went for a basic package? Any arrived yet?

Burlew isn’t sending out partial orders so you have to wait until everything you’re getting is ready. (In my case, I’m waiting for the Sticky Shticks game expansion.)

I have downloaded the first set of Monster Minis, which are cool.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4311 "2012-05-30T17:22:17Z")

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> [@vislor](#):
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> What I haven’t seen, and want more, is the PDFs of Dim Sun and the background stuff! Ah, well. Patience, virtue. Or something like that.

According to the updates, he’s working on the Dim Sun, Haleo and Julelan, and Belkar PDF’s. What’s surprising is that he doesn’t have any progress listed for the O-Chul PDF, “How the Paladin Got His Scar”. The reason I find this surprising is that it was the first bonus project he mentioned in the Kickstarter campaign. Burlew said he had originally thought of including the story in the _Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales_ book and already had it plotted out. So I would have expected that story to be the first one completed.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4312 "2012-05-30T17:35:53Z")

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I’m still waiting for a couple of books, plus the assorted swag bits. But what I’m _really_ waiting for is the PDF stories.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4313 "2012-05-30T21:33:07Z")

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I know that my packet isn’t ready yet, because I’m getting a signed print, and he just said that he was getting ready to start signing things, like the signed print, which I will eventually be receiving, after it gets signed by Mr. Rich Burlew.

Did I mention that I’ll be getting a signed print?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4314 "2012-05-30T21:37:10Z")

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Since I’m 1) overseas and 2) still waiting on Sticky Shticks, I doubt I’ll see my loot before July.

And I’m wondering when Nale will attempt to backstab Daddy (and/or Malack). Tarquin’s slight will not have gone unheeded by Nale and his monstrous ego. Or is this a deliberate ploy by Tarquin to provoke Nale into rash action? Aaaagh! I can’t keep up.

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4315 "2012-05-30T21:50:35Z")

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I haven’t even gotten an email saying it’s shipped yet. ☹

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4316 "2012-05-30T23:44:03Z")

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> [@vislor](#):
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> I got the coloring book, hit point pad, fridge magnet, stickers and something else.

Same here – I think I was around $26 or so.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4317 "2012-05-31T00:53:16Z")

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I got the level that got me all the swag but none of the books (I have them all). The only thing I’ve received so far is the PDF of the monster minis.

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4318 "2012-06-01T04:10:35Z")

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I got all the regular books (Already have the prequels and Dragon Tales) plus a magnet, so I think mine should be somewhere in the line to be shipped. But haven’t heard anything yet.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4319 "2012-06-01T07:13:46Z")

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> [@Lok](#):
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> I got all the regular books (Already have the prequels and Dragon Tales) plus a magnet, so I think mine should be somewhere in the line to be shipped. But haven’t heard anything yet.

I’m on the same package from the sounds of it, but mine needs posting overseas, still only a matter of time now 🙂

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4320 "2012-06-07T19:50:22Z")

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So, the shoes allowed me to outrun death, but they had, like, individual toes.

> **[Shoes](https://xkcd.com/1065/)**
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> I \*do\* hear that they're the most comfortable thing to wear on your feet since sliced bread.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4321 "2012-06-07T20:42:03Z")

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“Ooo, the thread has been bumped…I wonder if there’s a new comic? Yes! Sweet, there’s a link! All right, let’s see what’s happe_ **HEEEEY!** _ This is for OOTS, not XKCD!”

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