# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/421 "2010-01-20T05:56:07Z")
How did MitD know that was only _half_ of a ritual? Is this some sort of confirmation that he’s a god? ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/422 "2010-01-20T06:55:41Z")
Some surprisingly on-target insight from our favorite mysterious creature. “I don’t think Xykon has any love to earn.” It looks like O-Chul’s influence has already opened his eyes fairly wide. So, will Tsukiko keep her promise, and will her spell end up helping the good guys or the bad guys? Also, of course, what spell does Xykon have her working on? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/423 "2010-01-20T08:01:07Z")
The Redcloak Keep Out sign on Tsukiko’s door is a nice detail. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/424 "2010-01-20T08:24:51Z")
> [@shantih](#): > > So, will Tsukiko keep her promise, and will her spell end up helping the good guys or the bad guys? Who knows, with the Monster involved? He/she/it is the strip’s biggest wild card. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/425 "2010-01-20T08:37:22Z")
How does the strip title apply here? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/426 "2010-01-20T08:49:15Z")
Last panel, referring both to the head and the wight (who used to be one of Haley’s rebel paladins). ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/427 "2010-01-20T15:18:07Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The Redcloak Keep Out sign on Tsukiko’s door is a nice detail. Is that Redcloak? I thought it was a hobgoblin, telling the lowly canon fodder to keep out. Seems risky to say something like that to Redcloak… ETA: Oh, and another nice detail is the little Xykon doll on her pillow. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/428 "2010-01-20T15:20:26Z")
> [@shantih](#): > > Also, of course, what spell does Xykon have her working on? I just assumed he had her researching the ritual to warp a Gate so she can take over for Redcloak, either out of necessity or out of typical Xykon-style treachery. But now I’m questioning the assumption. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/429 "2010-01-20T17:15:18Z")
> [@chorpler](#): > > ETA: Oh, and another nice detail is the little Xykon doll on her pillow. Yes, but we have seen the doll before. > **[653 Fun While It Lasted - Giant in the Playground Games](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0653.html)** ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/430 "2010-01-20T17:16:58Z")
> [@chorpler](#): > > Is that Redcloak? I thought it was a hobgoblin, telling the lowly canon fodder to keep out. Seems risky to say something like that to Redcloak… Actually, now you mention it, you’re right. The face on the keep out sign is orange, but Redcloak is green-skinned. It’s a generic hobgoblin, not Redcloak. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/431 "2010-01-20T17:53:50Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > How did MitD know that was only _half_ of a ritual? Is this some sort of confirmation that he’s a god? I suspect it’s merely confirmation that the MitD is some kind of natural spellcaster. It’s definitely another hint being dropped as to what the MitD _is_, though. > [@Leaper](#): > > Last panel, referring both to the head and the wight (who used to be one of Haley’s rebel paladins). Don’t have time to check now, but although that wight used to be a rebel, I don’t think he used to be a paladin. I think Thanh was their only paladin. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/432 "2010-01-20T18:09:38Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > The monster seems to be getting smarter. The monster’s plenty smart. He picked up Go quickly enough, after all. He’s just naive, lonely, and out of his element. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/433 "2010-01-20T19:34:08Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > The monster’s plenty smart. He picked up Go quickly enough, after all. [Yes.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0550.html) MITD: “Aww, man! That game is hard!” O-Chul: “True, but you are learning it quickly. Very quickly.” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/434 "2010-01-20T20:54:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Don’t have time to check now, but although that wight used to be a rebel, I don’t think he used to be a paladin. I think Thanh was their only paladin. I think it’s pretty clear in the strip that Isamu (that was that guy’s name) was something with Hide and Move Silently as class skills, presumably rogue. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/435 "2010-01-27T10:27:08Z")
[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0701.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0701.html) The last panel is priceless. Whilst I think on, should we reconvene in a Book 6 thread? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/436 "2010-01-27T10:38:29Z")
Whenever Redcloak looks into the mirror, he sees his brother’s face. That’s… incredibly sad. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/437 "2010-01-27T12:30:01Z")
Where did all the green skinned goblins come from? I thought they all died in Dorokun’s(sp) dungeon. ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/438 "2010-01-27T12:34:00Z")
And he’s still trying to convince himself that it’s all going to work out for the best in the end. It’s a point – he’s been avoiding facing what happened with his brother all this time (well, at least I’m assuming so), but now he gets a direct reminder of his brother every time he catches a look at his reflection. Xykon’s decision to force Redcloak to carry around that injury may not be the smartest move he’s ever made, once the story’s all told. Soooooo, what’s the big announcement? I’m guessing the Phylactery has been found and it’s time to mobilize, but maybe not? And it’s nice to see a good pull finally get the recognition it deserves. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/439 "2010-01-27T13:15:27Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > Whilst I think on, should we reconvene in a Book 6 thread? Only if you want to wait a year and a half before we talk about it. The thread is “Book 5 Discussion” because we’re currently in the fifth OotS book (okay, seventh if we count books 0 and -1), not because this is the fifth thread. The last one went for forty-two pages and six months so I think we’re safe sticking with this one. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/440 "2010-01-27T13:19:14Z")
> [@Just\_Some\_Guy](#): > > Only if you want to wait a year and a half before we talk about it. The thread is “Book 5 Discussion” because we’re currently in the fifth OotS book (okay, seventh if we count books 0 and -1), not because this is the fifth thread. The last one went for forty-two pages and six months so I think we’re safe sticking with this one. n/m I thought we had moved on a book since this thread started. Must have lost the plot somewhere! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=23)