# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 222
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4422 "2012-07-21T18:18:39Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I obviously agree that Nale and Sabine have different views on sex. To me the key line was the penultimate panel: _“So…you wouldn’t have been upset if I had been seducing her?”_ Nale wouldn’t have asked this question if he had been aware of Sabine’s casual attitude towards sex. And there was this [strip](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0794.html) which clearly shows there are jealousy issues at play. I remember when that strip came out someone pointed out the odd expression “dwindling day” which could be a subtle suggestion that Nale thought Tarquin only had less than a day to live. I can’t remember, are we still on the same day? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4423 "2012-07-21T19:24:42Z")
Windy Canyon is two days journey away. So, no. [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0817.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0817.html) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4424 "2012-07-21T19:33:00Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > I remember when that strip came out someone pointed out the odd expression “dwindling day” which could be a subtle suggestion that Nale thought Tarquin only had less than a day to live. I can’t remember, are we still on the same day? No, Vaarsuvius was in the Semi-Elemental Plane of Ranch Dressing for [two days](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0835.html). And V said it would take them another day to travel to the Windy Canyon. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4425 "2012-07-23T16:04:01Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > I remember when that strip came out someone pointed out the odd expression “dwindling day” which could be a subtle suggestion that Nale thought Tarquin only had less than a day to live. I can’t remember, are we still on the same day? I think he was being poetic. He means he thinks Tarquin’s time is past ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4426 "2012-07-23T17:19:24Z")
As long as we’re waiting, anyone have any theories about what Elan’s Super Top Secret Plan is? (Mentioned in [836](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0836.html) and [837](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0837.html).) ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4427 "2012-07-23T17:42:37Z")
Also while we’re waiting, is it just me, or does [Haley’s Paranoia](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0382.html) have a slight resemblance to [Girard Draketooth](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0695.html)? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4428 "2012-07-23T17:52:00Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > As long as we’re waiting, anyone have any theories about what Elan’s Super Top Secret Plan is? (Mentioned in [836](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0836.html) and [837](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0837.html).) After mentioning that he’d sure like to make Tarquin seem not-so-badass – and had a lot of trouble figuring out how to deal with Nale – the last thing Elan mentions before that epiphany is his mother the barmaid, who Durkon could maybe magic in to make a dramatic appearance. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4429 "2012-07-23T17:55:47Z")
> [@](#): > > Also while we’re waiting, is it just me, or does Haley’s Paranoia have a slight resemblance to Girard Draketooth? Up until the Draketooth massacre, I was predicting that Haley and Girard were related. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4430 "2012-07-23T18:07:59Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Also while we’re waiting, is it just me, or does [Haley’s Paranoia](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0382.html) have a slight resemblance to [Girard Draketooth](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0695.html)? Even Haley has acknowledged this and compared Girard to her father. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4431 "2012-07-23T18:11:20Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > After mentioning that he’d sure like to make Tarquin seem not-so-badass – and had a lot of trouble figuring out how to deal with Nale – the last thing Elan mentions before that epiphany is his mother the barmaid, who Durkon could maybe magic in to make a dramatic appearance. A possibility. The other possible clue is that Roy was talking about finding a new family when Elan had his idea. The other clue is that Durkon apparently agreed to carry out whatever it was that Elan wanted (although he looks confused by the request). So that puts something of a limit on how obviously crazy it could be. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4432 "2012-07-23T22:37:50Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Up until the Draketooth massacre, I was predicting that Haley and Girard were related. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Even Haley has acknowledged this and compared Girard to her father. What I meant was maybe it was a hint, from before we knew Girard was crazy-paranoid. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4433 "2012-07-23T22:43:38Z")
Just got an email from ookdook that my stuff has been shipped! Yeah, me! Rich is slowly but surely getting things done. Be strong, those of you who are still waiting. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4434 "2012-07-24T00:02:51Z")
Me too! I had completely forgotten where it was being shipped from and the e-mail didn’t give me any hints as to what it was. I was halfway through a conversation with my wife trying to figure out what we had ordered before I went “oh! Never mind!” ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4435 "2012-07-24T00:26:32Z")
I got my books on Saturday. All the color books, plus the coloring book and stickers. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4436 "2012-07-24T03:15:38Z")
I got most of my package a week or so ago. The art print inexplicably wasn’t there, but Rich says the warehouse will ship me another one. Apparently, it’s not as simple as, “Hey! Backer #8546 needs an art print! All right, let’s mail it out as soon as possible,” because it’s still not here. My brother is getting his in a few days. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4437 "2012-07-24T03:38:17Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Also while we’re waiting, is it just me, or does [Haley’s Paranoia](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0382.html) have a slight resemblance to [Girard Draketooth](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0695.html)? I had forgotten how funny some of the older stuff is… “I think the dress looks hot.” “No one asked you, Haley’s latent bisexuality.” “Fine. I’ll just go back to hiding in the corner.” ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4438 "2012-07-26T14:27:24Z")
[New comic](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0859.html). ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4439 "2012-07-26T14:29:39Z")
[Holy…](http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Holy_Word) Note the effects: The succubus is probably clicking her ruby slippers together. Everyone is probably deafened, which is gonna give them lower init checks in the fight that’s about to happen, and make the spellcasters have a 20% failure chance. (Failure chances suck, and have a psychological disadvantage, as people will probably try to do things that have no failure chance rather than risk it; this may lead to suboptimal tactics). And then there’s blinded and paralyzed. Probably a bunch of folks will be blinded. I don’t know if paralyzation is in the works for anyone, but I guess we’ll find out. And the mummies are almost certainly gone. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4440 "2012-07-26T14:47:37Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > [Holy…](http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Holy_Word) …Smoked. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4441 "2012-07-26T15:06:16Z")
Is Durkon walking through a wall in panels 5-6? Or using some other teleportation mechanism? Or shrugging off a camouflage spell? Or…? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=221) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=223)