# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 249
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4962 "2013-02-23T00:20:06Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I’m digging the prequel story about Belkar Rich just sent out to all the Kickstarter backers. :eek: I’m a backer and I didn’t get anything. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4963 "2013-02-23T00:21:21Z")
> [@thinksnow](#): > > :eek: I’m a backer and I didn’t get anything. Check your email. It went out to those who kicked in over a certain amount, I think. So I retract the “all” in my previous statement. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4964 "2013-02-23T00:25:21Z")
Can vampirism be reversed/cured? That d20 article didn’t say one way or the other, but I’m guessing no. ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4965 "2013-02-23T00:31:12Z")
Whoops, nevermind. I see what Rich did. It’s not email, but backers can find it, IYKWIM. ---
**Author:** ![AndrewL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@AndrewL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndrewL)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4966 "2013-02-23T04:05:48Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Can vampirism be reversed/cured? That d20 article didn’t say one way or the other, but I’m guessing no. Sure. Destroy the vampire, then cast Resurrection on the dust. That will give you the living, non-vampire person back again, provided their soul consents to being brought back. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4967 "2013-02-23T04:34:40Z")
> [@AndrewL](#): > > Sure. Destroy the vampire, then cast Resurrection on the dust. That will give you the living, non-vampire person back again, provided their soul consents to being brought back. That’s not likely to happen though, since Roy and Haley are already banking on death to take care of the “Belkar problem”. [“Pretty soon Belkar’s fate will be someone’s else’s problem. Someone bony with a black robe and a big scythe”](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0666.html) Possibly another bit of foreshadowing, given what Malack looks like. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4968 "2013-02-23T08:55:45Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Anyway, I don’t get why everyone is trancing on Malack’s vulnerability to light. He’s been dealing with that for his entire life. He’s an albino. Even before he became a vampire he likely had some means of dealing with sunlight. An albino in a blazing desert is gonna need SOME form of help. Are we sure he’s an albino? The red eyes and pallor could be the result of his vampirism; he may \*claim \*to be an albino as part of his disguise. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4969 "2013-02-23T16:32:36Z")
> [@](#): > > Possibly another bit of foreshadowing, given what Malack looks like. Oh, no! It’s the lizgreaper! ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4970 "2013-02-23T16:40:30Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Are we sure he’s an albino? The red eyes and pallor could be the result of his vampirism; he may \*claim \*to be an albino as part of his disguise. I’m pretty certain he is an albino. His eyes are pink when he’s not in vampire-mode. They only went red when he started hitting Belkar with the bite of doom. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4971 "2013-02-23T23:45:08Z")
> [@thinksnow](#): > > Whoops, nevermind. I see what Rich did. > It’s not email, but backers can find it, IYKWIM. You’re giving me too much credit. I’m a backer and I haven’t figured out how to get a copy of the PDF. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4972 "2013-02-24T06:38:24Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You’re giving me too much credit. I’m a backer and I haven’t figured out how to get a copy of the PDF. There were two e-mails sent by Kickstarter, with the subjects “Project Update #56: The Order of the Stick Reprint Drive by Rich Burlew” and “Project Update #57: The Order of the Stick Reprint Drive by Rich Burlew”. The second was supposed to be sent to backers only, and includes the link to the PDF. It should also be visible on the Kickstarter site. If you still can’t find it, send me a PM and I’ll go into more detail with the URL and whatnot. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4973 "2013-02-24T07:18:24Z")
> [@chorpler](#): > > There were two e-mails sent by Kickstarter, with the subjects “Project Update #56: The Order of the Stick Reprint Drive by Rich Burlew” and “Project Update #57: The Order of the Stick Reprint Drive by Rich Burlew”. The second was supposed to be sent to backers only, and includes the link to the PDF. It should also be visible on the Kickstarter site. > > If you still can’t find it, send me a PM and I’ll go into more detail with the URL and whatnot. I’m a backer that should be getting all the PDFs but I haven’t received any email. I’m away from home right now so the computer I’m using doesn’t have my Kickstarter password. I’ll probably have to wait until I get home to sign in to Kickstarter and download the PDF. But I do check my email and I don’t see any reason why I didn’t receive notification. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4974 "2013-02-25T11:19:26Z")
Go Durkon! [#871](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0871.html) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4975 "2013-02-25T11:54:46Z")
And may I be the first to say, in reaction to the last panel, [yuck](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0871.html). Seriously, yuck. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4976 "2013-02-25T12:31:42Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And may I be the first to say, in reaction to the last panel, [yuck](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0871.html). > > Seriously, yuck. I don’t know, I’m finding it very funny.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4977 "2013-02-25T13:13:22Z")
> [@Foggy](#): > > > [@Gyrate](#): > > > > And may I be the first to say, in reaction to the last panel, [yuck](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0871.html). > > > > Seriously, yuck. > > I don’t know, I’m finding it very funny.😃 Oh very funny. But still, yuck. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4978 "2013-02-25T13:28:13Z")
As Mr. Scruffy licks Belkar’s wounds. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4979 "2013-02-25T13:39:59Z")
BTW: How long until the Hold person spell wears off or does Malack have to release Belkar? ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4980 "2013-02-25T14:23:54Z")
> [@Foggy](#): > > BTW: How long until the Hold person spell wears off or does Malack have to release Belkar? Hold Person has a maximum duration of 1 round per caster level. Malack can end the spell at any time before expiry, Belkar can make one attempt per round to break the hold of the spell, or (in this case) Durkon could cast Remove Paralysis or Freedom of Movement on Belkar. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/4981 "2013-02-25T14:37:14Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > As Mr. Scruffy licks Belkar’s wounds. Since the wounds are visibly bloody, does that make it a trio of blooddrinkers? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=248) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=250)