# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/561 "2010-03-25T11:10:06Z")
I didn’t quite get the last panel, was it implyign that a) MitD has some sort of unconscious knowedge of O’chul’s situation b) he was responsible for the raqin c) he was responsible for O’Chul’s being able to sleep well in the rain or some combination of the 3? ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/562 "2010-03-25T11:14:10Z")
I don’t see it as anything more than a segue between the happenings in Azure City and those of Team Good. O-Chul had told the MitD once that rain helped him to sleep ([550 +1 BFF - Giant in the Playground Games](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0550.html)) and we go from the MitD thinking about his friend to the friend himself. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/563 "2010-03-25T12:55:32Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > I didn’t quite get the last panel, was it implyign that > > a) MitD has some sort of unconscious knowedge of O’chul’s situation > > b) he was responsible for the raqin > > c) he was responsible for O’Chul’s being able to sleep well in the rain > > or some combination of the 3? None of the above. O’Chul [said earlier](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0550.html)that the rain helps him sleep. The MITD expresses a hope that the rain is helping O’chul to sleep. Cut to O’Chul sleeping happily in the rain. There is no indication that MITD either caused the rain, or that he knows about it. Just that his hope came true, by good fortune. Not by any magic effect. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/564 "2010-03-25T14:58:32Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > O’Chul [said earlier](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0550.html)that the rain helps him sleep. Two things I just noticed about that strip: -You can see the MitD’s _hand_ holding the cup. -He mentions Right-Eye. Er, back to the present. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/565 "2010-03-25T15:12:11Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > -You can see the MitD’s _hand_ holding the cup. I’m pretty sure that’s the handle of the bucket. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/566 "2010-03-25T15:12:16Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Two things I just noticed about that strip: > > -You can see the MitD’s _hand_ holding the cup. Actually, that’s a bucket, and you’re seeing the handle. Look at it after MITD drops it on the floor. ETA: JINX!!! ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/567 "2010-03-25T15:12:56Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Two things I just noticed about that strip: > > -You can see the MitD’s _hand_ holding the cup. That’s not his hand. It’s the bucket handle. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/568 "2010-03-25T15:22:52Z")
Triple play! ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/569 "2010-03-25T15:23:13Z")
Super triple simulpost!!! Uncanny. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/570 "2010-03-25T16:37:16Z")
I have no idea why O-chul is on a tiny island. Have I forgotten something, or is Rich dropping us down in the middle of things? ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/571 "2010-03-25T16:48:53Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > I have no idea why O-chul is on a tiny island. Have I forgotten something, or is Rich dropping us down in the middle of things? We’re being dropped in the middle of things. Looks like [the trip north to Kraagor’s Gate](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0671.html) (the last time we saw O-Chul and Lien) didn’t go as planned. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/572 "2010-03-25T16:51:33Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > I have no idea why O-chul is on a tiny island. Have I forgotten something, or is Rich dropping us down in the middle of things? When we last saw him he was [riding a shark](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0672.html). Maybe he and Lien have stopped for a rest. But actually, I’m not sure they are on an island. They could be stopping in the middle of an open plain, it’s raining fiercely, and they’re surrounded by a large puddle, but it’s only a cm deep. They set out on their journey days ago. It wouldbe surprising if they are still at sea. Riding a shark is suitable only for a short trip. If they had a long journey, they would have taken a boat. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/573 "2010-03-25T17:45:15Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The fact that he has someone devoted only to him studying the ritual though implies that Xykon may not have been fooled as well as Redcloak thinks, though. Or maybe he just wants someone else besides Redcloak who can use it. [When we first see Tsukiko studying the ritual](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0700.html) she says that Xykon asked her to learn it and then explain it to him. He didn’t explain that it was only half a ritual – the MitD told her that part. In the [latest strip](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0709.html), she’s figured out that the missing half is divine rather than arcane (meaning that Xykon gave her the arcane half). This suggests that it isn’t a plan to cut Redcloak out, or even just to have a backup for him – ol’ lazybones is pushing as much of his work as possible onto somebody else. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/574 "2010-03-26T00:37:33Z")
It’s a bucket. I stand triply corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/575 "2010-03-26T05:20:47Z")
Rich’s on a roll recently. The strips are coming out fast. Hopefully it keeps being this way 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/576 "2010-03-26T16:57:29Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [When we first see Tsukiko studying the ritual](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0700.html) she says that Xykon asked her to learn it and then explain it to him. He didn’t explain that it was only half a ritual – the MitD told her that part. In the [latest strip](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0709.html), she’s figured out that the missing half is divine rather than arcane (meaning that Xykon gave her the arcane half). > > This suggests that it isn’t a plan to cut Redcloak out, or even just to have a backup for him – ol’ lazybones is pushing as much of his work as possible onto somebody else. Or that Xykon plans to have Recloak cast the divine half while Tsukiko casts the arcane part. ---
**Author:** ![F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.Pu-du-he-pa-as)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/577 "2010-03-28T03:50:22Z")
[New Comic!](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0710.html#) And I thought my jokes fell flat… ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/578 "2010-03-28T05:09:27Z")
> [@F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](#): > > [New Comic!](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0710.html#) And I thought my jokes fell flat… If anyone missed it, a funny in context title this time: “Does He Get XP for Their Buzz?” ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/579 "2010-03-28T05:27:02Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > We’re being dropped in the middle of things. Looks like [the trip north to Kraagor’s Gate](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0671.html) (the last time we saw O-Chul and Lien) didn’t go as planned. > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > When we last saw him he was [riding a shark](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0672.html). Maybe he and Lien have stopped for a rest. > > But actually, I’m not sure they are on an island. They could be stopping in the middle of an open plain, it’s raining fiercely, and they’re surrounded by a large puddle, but it’s only a cm deep. > > They set out on their journey days ago. It wouldbe surprising if they are still at sea. Riding a shark is suitable only for a short trip. If they had a long journey, they would have taken a boat. Thanks. I hate it when I think I’ve forgotten something and try to go back to find it and then end up going through the whole archive. Well, I don’t hate it, but it eats up a lot of time. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/580 "2010-03-28T07:54:57Z")
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