# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6062 "2013-07-02T18:29:46Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Half-price, actually (in the case of Payless Shoes, anyway. Other retailers might actually do BOGO as a twofer).
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> Also, what’s with everyone anticipating a “Kaboom?”
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> Isn’t it supposed to be “krackakoom!” ([cite](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0696.html))?

I was using the generic rather than the specific. My apologies. 😉

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6063 "2013-07-02T19:39:39Z")

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It took me a minute to realize the right side of the TV wasn’t shattered, but that I was looking at the column.

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Also, what’s with everyone anticipating a “Kaboom?”

Not everyone. Just [this guy.](http://watchusplaygames.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/wheres-the-kaboom-theres-supposed-to-be-an-earth-shattering-kaboom-marvin-the-martian-12-21-12.jpg?w=645&h=483)

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6064 "2013-07-02T19:47:14Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> So now V knows about Sabine’s link to the Three.
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> Oh yes, I do wonder: they said V’s body would be kept safe. But I wonder if V will be buried under a pyramid of rubble…

It makes me stabby to refer (not you, general comment) to refer to V as a “he”. I know said individual is andro, but still…

Anyway, clear to me that they will brainwash him/her into doing their will.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6065 "2013-07-02T21:06:38Z")

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Maybe not brainwash, but try to trick. They _are_ torturing him/her by

forcing him/her to watch reality TV!

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6066 "2013-07-02T21:34:42Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> Not everyone. Just [this guy.](http://watchusplaygames.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/wheres-the-kaboom-theres-supposed-to-be-an-earth-shattering-kaboom-marvin-the-martian-12-21-12.jpg?w=645&h=483)

Yes, that little guy was the inspiration for my usage. I even ‘heard’ his voice when I posted it. Persistent trope, isn’t it? He first showed up in 1948! Wow, he’s even older than _I_ am!

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6067 "2013-07-02T23:51:28Z")

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I don’t think the fiends have to brainwash V. S/he could explain to the team what happened, but that would require getting into some backstory that s/he’d probably rather keep quiet about. All the fiends need to do is point this out and V will be shamed into silence.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6068 "2013-07-03T02:32:05Z")

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I’m getting a wee bit tired of V being bottled up, and now s/he’s rebottled by the IIFC. C’mon, Giant, it’s been 50+ strips, do we really need 50 more of this?

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**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6069 "2013-07-03T02:45:38Z")

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Wizards are overpowered, donchaknow? A good DM’s gotta take care of them somehow. =p

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6070 "2013-07-10T01:55:08Z")

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[New one.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0898.html)

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6071 "2013-07-10T02:02:53Z")

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Roy should know that Belkar has Belkars safety firmly at the front of his mind. So if he has an idea to stay alive, it’s probably worth trying.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6072 "2013-07-10T02:08:00Z")

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It sure was nice of Burlew to have the fiends say that they would protect V’s body. Otherwise, I’m sure, everyone would be speculating about what would happen to it.

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**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6073 "2013-07-10T02:14:10Z")

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> [@Hypno-Toad](#):
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> Roy should know that Belkar has Belkars safety firmly at the front of his mind. So if he has an idea to stay alive, it’s probably worth trying.

Well, he could still have a plan that involves sacrificing the rest of the team to save himself and Mr. Scruffy. I don’t think that’s the case, given the character development we’ve seen for Belkar recently, but I’m sure it crossed Roy’s mind.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6074 "2013-07-10T04:06:34Z")

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Hmm, they seem to be in the same room as in seen [#882](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0882.html), which I guess is the same room they got vitriolic-sphered in some time ago. The exterior of the pyramid is right at hand. Belkar isn’t running up the visible stairs to the mess hall full of dessicated corpses, so what’s he running toward? I’m thinking magic carpet.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6075 "2013-07-10T05:50:03Z")

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I just noticed that the grey thing they’re traipsing over in panel 8 is the steel door trap that diverted Malack a while back, apparently shook loose of its moorings.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6076 "2013-07-10T07:20:42Z")

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> [@Trepa\_Mayfield](#):
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> It sure was nice of Burlew to have the fiends say that they would protect V’s body. Otherwise, I’m sure, everyone would be speculating about what would happen to it.

They still are on the OOTS forum. After all, the fiends only promised to protect V’s body _while his soul is with them;_ what happens when the protection ends and V is under thousands of tons of broken rock?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6077 "2013-07-10T07:36:42Z")

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V will be useless\* to the other two\* if V’s body is crushed, though. I doubt they’d make a bargain where only one of them benefits.

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**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6078 "2013-07-10T07:36:43Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> They still are on the OOTS forum. After all, the fiends only promised to protect V’s body _while his soul is with them;_ what happens when the protection ends and V is under thousands of tons of broken rock?

Presumably the other two fiends will still want their time with V as well.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6079 "2013-07-10T07:54:15Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> V will be useless\* to the other two\* if V’s body is crushed, though. I doubt they’d make a bargain where only one of them benefits.

> [@cckerberos](#):
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> Presumably the other two fiends will still want their time with V as well.

Certainly; so the question is what do they plan to do about it?

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6080 "2013-07-10T09:17:43Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> They still are on the OOTS forum. After all, the fiends only promised to protect V’s body _while his soul is with them;_ what happens when the protection ends and V is under thousands of tons of broken rock?

He’ll just have to Disintegrate his way out.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6081 "2013-07-11T04:03:33Z")

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V will pull a Mr. Stiffly and be blown clear while in stasis. Possibly right into Tarquin’s forces/The LG.

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