# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 307
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6122 "2013-07-14T23:08:30Z")
The only way left is through the gate. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6123 "2013-07-14T23:49:15Z")
I am too lazy to check back in the thread but someone predicted that V would end up in the ‘Snarl World’ or whatever we want to call the world beyond the rip in the space-time continuum. That looks more probable now, unless the Evil Triad teleported V prior to the destruction of the gate. So many questions! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AndrewL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@AndrewL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndrewL)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6124 "2013-07-15T00:24:10Z")
The room V was in was under the room with the Gate in it. The Rift is presumably currently located exactly where the Gate was. There is a solid floor underneath the Rift. I assume this means that the room that V was in is still intact. Maybe the IFCC protected it from the explosion somehow, or maybe the explosion was directed only outwards and upwards, not downwards. Either way V should still be under there, safe and waiting to be released by the fiends. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6125 "2013-07-15T01:00:13Z")
Malack, Nale, Durkon, Zz’drti: where are they? ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6126 "2013-07-15T04:52:26Z")
Redcloak gets his disintegrate power from being a cleric with the Destruction domain, right? How many times does he get to use it per day? If he can only use it once, does that mean a forcecage would now work just as well to confine him as it did in the “Roy kills Xykon” phantasm? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6127 "2013-07-15T06:40:57Z")
Dense today. Will someone please explain the fridge joke? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6128 "2013-07-15T06:50:44Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Dense today. Will someone please explain the fridge joke? [Nuke the fridge](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nuke%20the%20fridge). It’s the updated version of [jumping the shark](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6129 "2013-07-15T07:36:52Z")
> [@chorpler](#): > > Redcloak gets his disintegrate power from being a cleric with the Destruction domain, right? How many times does he get to use it per day? If he can only use it once, does that mean a forcecage would now work just as well to confine him as it did in the “Roy kills Xykon” phantasm? It doesn’t matter - the Order is screwed. They’re out in the open with nowhere to hide, with no primary spellcasters, no plan and no time to prepare, and their enemy has the higher ground, a safe distance and the ability to cast near-unlimited Meteor Swarms. There is no way they could possibly win this fight. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6130 "2013-07-15T07:52:05Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > [Nuke the fridge](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nuke%20the%20fridge). It’s the updated version of [jumping the shark](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark) The [scene](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arib8uWMWsM). ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6131 "2013-07-15T17:29:24Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > [Nuke the fridge](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nuke%20the%20fridge). It’s the updated version of [jumping the shark](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark) Ta. Haven’t seen an Indiana Jones movie since _Temple of Doom_. Looks like I didn’t miss much by not seeing the _Crystal Skull_ installment. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The [scene](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arib8uWMWsM). HAHAHAHAHAHA! ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6132 "2013-07-15T17:32:54Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > It doesn’t matter - the Order is screwed. They’re out in the open with nowhere to hide, with no primary spellcasters, no plan and no time to prepare, and their enemy has the higher ground, a safe distance and the ability to cast near-unlimited Meteor Swarms. There is no way they could possibly win this fight. Wouldn’t it be neat, then, if the evil trio used the V possession time to fight Xykon? After all, they’ve specifically said, IIRC, that they don’t want Team Evil winning yet, and the Order is the good-aligned group with the best shot of keeping the status quo. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6133 "2013-07-15T17:36:04Z")
**kaylasdad99** , you really ought to see _Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade_. > [@Leaper](#): > > Wouldn’t it be neat, then, if the evil trio used the V possession time to fight Xykon? After all, they’ve specifically said, IIRC, that they don’t want Team Evil winning yet, and the Order is the good-aligned group with the best shot of keeping the status quo. It would be neat, but haven’t they already said that they have no plans to possess or control V’s body during his imprisonment? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6134 "2013-07-15T17:55:48Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The only way left is through the gate. I agree. The Order is in no shape for a showdown with Xykon & Redcloak now. They’re going through. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6135 "2013-07-15T17:59:51Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > It would be neat, but haven’t they already said that they have no plans to possess or control V’s body during his imprisonment? They may not have a choice at this point. ETA: Although going through the gate is definitely a good option, especially for story advancement. But would Rich have the Order separated again by leaving V behind? ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6136 "2013-07-15T18:07:58Z")
Maybe the fiends incarcerated V in order to allow V to survive the gate blast. And they will restore V soon enough to fight Xykon. Hmmm. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6137 "2013-07-15T18:19:52Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Haven’t seen an Indiana Jones movie since _Temple of Doom_. Looks like I didn’t miss much by not seeing the _Crystal Skull_ installment. Temple of Doom was pretty bad. But you should check out Last Crusade - that one was good. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6138 "2013-07-15T18:20:59Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > ETA: Although going through the gate is definitely a good option, especially for story advancement. But would Rich have the Order separated again by leaving V behind? Maybe V has already gone through. Where was he relative to the gate? ---
**Author:** ![AndrewL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@AndrewL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndrewL)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6139 "2013-07-15T19:44:20Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Maybe V has already gone through. Where was he relative to the gate? Underneath it. The listening-room V was in was under the room the Gate was in. The Rift is presumably located where the Gate used to be, and the Rift seems to have a solid floor under it, so presumably the room that V was in is still intact. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6140 "2013-07-15T20:56:29Z")
Well at least Red Cloak knows Roy’s name. Oots isn’t quite out in the open: they can hide behind the gate. I suppose they could hide behind the sarcophagus as well. Ah hell, Xykon can send meteors from above, can’t he? And Red Cloak can travel to the opposite side of the newly created valley, though he would be vulnerable to Haley’s arrows. That said, unless I’m seeing a tiny bit of sand at the bottom of the snarl image, jumping into off-world ocean doesn’t sound like a great survival strategy. Even if sarcophaguses float. Which they don’t. So it boils down to Haley’s arrows and the appearance of other character(s) in the next strip. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/6141 "2013-07-15T21:36:14Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > So it boils down to Haley’s arrows and the appearance of other character(s) in the next strip. Or that time-honoured tradition of running away. Team Evil are in no position to pursue. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=306) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=308)