# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 361
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7202 "2013-09-04T01:46:57Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Awesome! I am dying here. Can I use this for a Sig? Feel free. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7203 "2013-09-04T02:01:30Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > After all, that’s valuable time we could spend talking about a vampire tyrannosaurus. Well, that’s the logical progression, isn’t it, since we’ve determined the tyrannosaur can’t finish off the vampire? The vampire can recover in a day, and the tyrannosaur can’t. All it takes is a stubborn vamp who _really_ wants a T-Rex thrall. If he can put up with a few nights of ignominious exits, he should be able to drain the dinosaur. Fun point: Adding the vampire template to a tyrannosaur would give it an intelligence of 4–sufficient for it to learn a language. It also increases the critter’s already substantial Wisdom to 17. Together, this suggests to me that you could have a vampire tyrannosaur cleric, though it would have an awfully hard time earning xp. Oh, and it should be able use its Children of the Night ability to call raptors in place of wolves, because this is the internet. The downside? I think we’re gonna need a bigger coffin. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7204 "2013-09-04T04:53:07Z")
> [@Balance](#): > > The downside? I think we’re gonna need a bigger coffin. _And_ a bigger stake. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7205 "2013-09-04T07:27:55Z")
Or, as the case may be, a truly epic quantity of holy wafers. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7206 "2013-09-04T10:23:14Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > Or, as the case may be, a truly epic quantity of holy wafers. Or a holy water firehose! ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7207 "2013-09-04T12:34:44Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Or a holy water firehose! Hmm, an Endless Decanter, scribed with some holy symbols and blessed by a high level cleric? It’s the anti-undead watering hose! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7208 "2013-09-04T12:59:25Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Or a holy water firehose! I’ve seen that used in a comic book once (although not with a T-Rex). I won’t name the book for fear of spoiling it, but it was surprisingly effective. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7209 "2013-09-04T13:17:45Z")
And, of course, a _T. Rex_ vampire can _spider climb_ - which would be a sight worth seeing. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7210 "2013-09-04T15:33:59Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’ve seen that used in a comic book once (although not with a T-Rex). I won’t name the book for fear of spoiling it, but it was surprisingly effective. Indeed, that was awesome and totally unexpected. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7211 "2013-09-04T16:06:49Z")
So, on the one hand, the rules lawyer in me is compelled to point out that the vampire template can only be applied to humanoid or monstrous humanoid creatures. The GM in me, on the other hand, is currently running a jungle campaign that has already introduced both vampires and dinosaurs… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7212 "2013-09-04T16:11:39Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > So, on the one hand, the rules lawyer in me is compelled to point out that the vampire template can only be applied to humanoid or monstrous humanoid creatures. > > The GM in me, on the other hand, is currently running a jungle campaign that has already introduced both vampires and dinosaurs… The strip has already broken that barrier. The Order has fought a vampire snail. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7213 "2013-09-04T16:53:21Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The strip has already broken that barrier. The Order has fought a vampire snail. I think referring to that encounter as a “fight” is being over-generous, to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7214 "2013-09-04T17:11:24Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > So, on the one hand, the rules lawyer in me is compelled to point out that the vampire template can only be applied to humanoid or monstrous humanoid creatures. > > The GM in me, on the other hand, is currently running a jungle campaign that has already introduced both vampires and dinosaurs… The vampire tyrannosaur cleric is a key figure in the religion of the local not-Aztecs, explaining the prominence of blood sacrifice in their rituals. Also, he probably has feathers. Go on, do it. You know you wanna. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7215 "2013-09-04T17:34:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > So, on the one hand, the rules lawyer in me is compelled to point out that the vampire template can only be applied to humanoid or monstrous humanoid creatures. > > The GM in me, on the other hand, is currently running a jungle campaign that has already introduced both vampires and dinosaurs… Well, if you can buy a vampire lizard folk, then a vampire dinosaur pretty much follows. Although draining a dinosaur of blood (apparently a precursor of the vampirization process) might take a significant effort. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7216 "2013-09-04T17:39:27Z")
The Vampirosaurus. Or V-Rex. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7217 "2013-09-04T18:35:37Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > Well, if you can buy a vampire lizard folk, then a vampire dinosaur pretty much follows. Although draining a dinosaur of blood (apparently a precursor of the vampirization process) might take a significant effort. Get ten vampires on it. They can race to see who got the last drop out and wins a dinosaur thrall. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7218 "2013-09-04T22:53:36Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > Well, if you can buy a vampire lizard folk, then a vampire dinosaur pretty much follows. Although draining a dinosaur of blood (apparently a precursor of the vampirization process) might take a significant effort. > [@Jophiel](#): > > Get ten vampires on it. They can race to see who got the last drop out and wins a dinosaur thrall. Ha, now I have this image of a roomful of vampires all looking like that girl Violet Beauregarde from _Charlie and the Chocolate Factory_, who turned blue and inflated into a sphere. With thralls rolling them around singing like Oompa Loompas. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7219 "2013-09-05T00:38:08Z")
So do I read the d20 site correctly that Durkon would be in deep trouble if he crossed through the gate and ended up in the water? Hmm, maybe that’s what Chekov’s Coffin is for – to use as a boat on the other side. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7220 "2013-09-05T02:33:36Z")
It’s only running water that’s a problem, like rivers. The ocean shouldn’t be an issue. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7221 "2013-09-05T02:44:43Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It’s only running water that’s a problem, like rivers. The ocean shouldn’t be an issue. A vampire in an operating jacuzzi is toast, but switch off the pump and they’re fine? Huh, weird rules. But I guess we knew that. 😉 ETA: how can the ocean not be “running”? Hello, tides? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=360) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=362)