# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2013, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7562 "2013-09-29T10:45:14Z")

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7563 "2013-09-29T15:07:49Z")

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Rich promises it won’t take 10 more years to finish the story. He says maybe 4.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7564 "2013-09-29T15:10:03Z")

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Good god…10 years?

That means this comic has been a part of my life for almost 1/4 of my life! I have relatives who haven’t been a part of my life for that long.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2013, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7565 "2013-09-29T15:20:59Z")

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I doubt it’ll be finished in 4 years. There’s 2 books left and the current one has taken 3 years. Probably about 5 or 6 years, then.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7566 "2013-09-29T20:35:31Z")

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I’m OK with 10 more years. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7567 "2013-09-29T21:31:57Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> I doubt it’ll be finished in 4 years. There’s 2 books left and **the current one has taken 3 years**. Probably about 5 or 6 years, then.

4 years, this thread was started the same time as this book, in August 2009.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7568 "2013-09-29T22:26:21Z")

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> [@Mr.Goob](#):
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> I’m OK with 10 more years. 🙂

Me, too! As much as I’m dying to know where the story is going and looking forward to resolving each plot point, it’s going to be a sad day when it’s all over. Luckily, we clearly have plenty of time to go, huzzah!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7569 "2013-09-30T09:07:16Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> But when the dragon wanted to locate her son’s killer, she just went to the Oracle.

Actually, I was wondering about that. Isn’t the Oracle linked to Tiamat? I’m not clear on how the whole Oracle thing goes but surely the Oracle could potentially have seen how that whole thing would turn out and how badly it would affect Tiamet herself (itself?).

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7570 "2013-09-30T13:32:19Z")

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Do kobolds in general have any link to Tiamat these days? I only remember them as the half-hit-die reptilian dog-men and don’t recall any draconic link or origin.

Which isn’t to say that the Oracle can’t be linked (since he is) to Tiamat, just wondering about your rank & file kobolds.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7571 "2013-09-30T14:22:50Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Do kobolds in general have any link to Tiamat these days? I only remember them as the half-hit-die reptilian dog-men and don’t recall any draconic link or origin.

They became distantly related to dragons with 3rd Edition.

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7572 "2013-09-30T14:28:50Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Do kobolds in general have any link to Tiamat these days? I only remember them as the half-hit-die reptilian dog-men and don’t recall any draconic link or origin.
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> Which isn’t to say that the Oracle can’t be linked (since he is) to Tiamat, just wondering about your rank & file kobolds.

Well, [the Oracle does pray to Tiamat to get his divinations](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0331.html), so he at least worships her. Whether there’s a distant family relationship is somewhat moot at that point.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7573 "2013-09-30T15:29:16Z")

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Kobolds insist that they’re related to dragons; all the other dragons insist that they’re not.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7574 "2013-10-01T10:11:53Z")

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[New one’s up!](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0922.html)

Nice to see our favorite sexy, shoeless god of war back in his element!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7575 "2013-10-01T10:33:56Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> [New one’s up!](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0922.html)
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> Nice to see our favorite sexy, shoeless god of war back in his element!

That…was a wholly unexpected Crowning Moment of Awesome.

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7576 "2013-10-01T11:47:42Z")

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Heh, turns out those ranger class features are good for more than just wandering around the wilderness - they’re good for a huge amount of ass-kickery as well.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7577 "2013-10-01T11:53:44Z")

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I’m starting to suspect Burlew is planning to kill Belkar in the next few strips. I mean, talk about going out in a blaze of glory.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7578 "2013-10-01T12:16:16Z")

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That was my immediate thought. “That’s it for Belkar.”

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7579 "2013-10-01T14:22:14Z")

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Hi! Peanut Gallery checking in again!

What’s the greyed out panel symbolise? (The one where someone is picking a locked cage containing the T-rex.)

I know Belkar had to make use of a Ranger class skill to “control” the T-rex, but I don’t quite get that locked cage equals die roll…

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7580 "2013-10-01T14:31:02Z")

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They grayed-out panel is a flashback to when Belkar and Roy were incarcerated as gladiators, when Belkar befriended the T-rex (by letting it out to rampage).

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7581 "2013-10-01T14:31:37Z")

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Flashback. Belkar encountered and freed the T-Rex when they were in Tarquin’s dungeon.

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