# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/741 "2010-05-06T13:58:54Z")
> [@JoseB](#): > > And Og forbid that someone makes a humorous allusion related to fat individuals twice in 153 strips separated by almost 2 years 😛 > > In other news, NOOTS! > > [Elan, Elan, when will you learn…?](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0720.html) :smack: THREE times, thank you: “Your momma so fat, she can’t see her feats.” --ibid And Elans foot in mouth disease may be his best demontration that he’s not Nale. ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/742 "2010-05-06T15:01:54Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > THREE times, thank you: “Your momma so fat, she can’t see her feats.” --ibid > > And Elans foot in mouth disease may be his best demontration that he’s not Nale. Well, I count it as two times in total because those “your momma so fat” things happened all in one panel of comic #566 (all three of them, which would technically make it “four times” by your reckoning). Ah, but (getting into the mind of minister Malack for a second), wouldn’t Nale be crafty enough to act in a completely stupid way that would undermine his own position, in order to disguise his intellect? (of course, we know that, if Nale tried to do that, he would end screwing it up. Hmmm… There may be an undercurrent of similarity between the twins when it comes to stupidity --albeit a different flavour of stupidity in each case). ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/743 "2010-05-06T16:12:39Z")
“OK, Honey. Quiet time.” heh heh heh That sounds SO real. BTW, I saw a link to OOTS in another thread on this fine forum and was enthralled (quite literally) and read the entire online archive over the course of several lunch breaks. And now I have found this thread and y’all are now stuck with me. I don’t know much about 3.x rules, but I have been playing D&D and variants since 1974 (he said hopefully establishing his geek cred). ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/744 "2010-05-06T16:24:23Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > BTW, I saw a link to OOTS in another thread on this fine forum and was enthralled (quite literally) and read the entire online archive over the course of several lunch breaks. > And now I have found this thread and y’all are now stuck with me. > > I don’t know much about 3.x rules, but I have been playing D&D and variants since 1974 (he said hopefully establishing his geek cred). One of us! One of us! One of us! One of us!\* \*If you want to establish REAL geek cred, you’ll know the original source for that line… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/745 "2010-05-06T16:35:19Z")
\*"My breakfast isn’t done yet. I don’t want to start the talking stuff until after my breakfast. Or wait! Let’s not do talking stuff today at all, and I can have more food then. Yeah, that’s a better idea."\* Anybody besides me think that sounds a lot like something MitD would say? Hmmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/746 "2010-05-06T16:38:40Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > One of us! One of us! One of us! One of us!\* > > \*If you want to establish REAL geek cred, you’ll know the original source for that line… _Freaks_. Oh. You, um, weren’t asking me. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/747 "2010-05-06T16:41:51Z")
> [@JoseB](#): > > Ah, but (getting into the mind of minister Malack for a second), wouldn’t Nale be crafty enough to act in a completely stupid way that would undermine his own position, in order to disguise his intellect? > > (of course, we know that, if Nale tried to do that, he would end screwing it up. Hmmm… There may be an undercurrent of similarity between the twins when it comes to stupidity --albeit a different flavour of stupidity in each case). I don’t think Nale COULD intentionally act dumb. He want’s so badly to show off how smart and superior he is and be admired for it that it would just be unthinkable even to let someone thinks he’s an imbecile. Much less cause them to think it. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/748 "2010-05-06T16:46:39Z")
I have trouble remembering plot points, so I’m a little confused here. Is Elan lying (why?), or was there another explosion involving Nale that I don’t remember? ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/749 "2010-05-06T16:55:41Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > One of us! One of us! One of us! One of us!\* > > \*If you want to establish REAL geek cred, you’ll know the original source for that line… If the quote is > [@](#): > > “We accept her! One of us! We accept her! One of us! Gooble gobble, gooble gobble! We accept her! We accept her!” then I propose the original source to be the movie _Freaks_ released in 1932. > [@](#): > > Can a full grown woman truly love a midget? ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/750 "2010-05-06T17:01:16Z")
For those who were looking for _Start of Darkness_, this link might be useful: [http://www.ookoodook.com/store/StartOfDarkness.shtml](http://www.ookoodook.com/store/StartOfDarkness.shtml) I suppose Mr. Berlew will make more money if we buy from his site rather than through Amazon. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/751 "2010-05-06T18:13:34Z")
So…did the Minister know he wasn’t Nale the whole time? ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/752 "2010-05-06T18:42:56Z")
I don’t think so. He acted as if Elan knew him already (which would have been true if Elan were Nale). ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/753 "2010-05-06T18:49:01Z")
He’s just bluffing, then? Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/754 "2010-05-06T19:11:38Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > I have trouble remembering plot points, so I’m a little confused here. Is Elan lying (why?), or was there another explosion involving Nale that I don’t remember? Well, as far as Elan knows, Nale was involved in [this explosion](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0463.html), but he’s not aware that the remaining members of the Linear Guild made their escape [four strips realier.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0458.html) ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/755 "2010-05-06T19:38:15Z")
Oh, whoops. Totally misread the speech bubbles there. Thought it was the Minister who brought up Nale being killed in an explosion. The other way makes a lot more sense. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/756 "2010-05-06T19:59:01Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Oh, whoops. Totally misread the speech bubbles there. Thought it was the Minister who brought up Nale being killed in an explosion. > > The other way makes a lot more sense. Oh, OK. Your confusion was confusing me. Now I understand. There ARE a lot of dialogue bubbles out there. I have had to reread several of the strips to figure out what the heck is going on. This is, of course, a good thing since it gives the whole thing a certain depth lacking in other pale imitations. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/757 "2010-05-08T21:37:41Z")
[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0721.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0721.html) new OOtS. Plan A implemented… ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/758 "2010-05-08T21:44:20Z")
“At last, we implement our most historically-successful stratagem.” ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/759 "2010-05-08T22:00:44Z")
So he’s half dragon/half ogre. Interesting combination. And the best way to convince him of something is to use a graph. I really liked the graph. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/760 "2010-05-08T22:03:20Z")
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