# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7642 "2013-10-09T17:09:25Z")

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Hey, that pink blob could be ANY spell! 😛

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7643 "2013-10-09T17:16:31Z")

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No, Anyspell is only for clerics with the Spell domain, not wizards.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7644 "2013-10-09T17:41:47Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> No, Anyspell is only for clerics with the Spell domain, not wizards.

o.6

How long have you been waiting to use that?

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7645 "2013-10-09T17:53:48Z")

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He spent his 2nd level Knowledge Utility slot on that little tidbit.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7646 "2013-10-09T18:00:39Z")

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Durkon clings to the side of the dino rather than riding atop it, and he’s not even knocked off with the rest when the dino tumbles. Vamp spider climb ability in action?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7647 "2013-10-09T18:06:45Z")

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Looks like it. Cool little background detail, there.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7648 "2013-10-09T18:51:57Z")

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Hrm.

Roy tells Durkon “Have Spiky and the dominated soldiers cover us until we’re clear, then release them”. Indeed, I don’t see Spiky in the final panel. Did Roy intend to have the devil dismissed? Seems like a waste of resources. Or do you suppose Spiky is following off-panel?

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7649 "2013-10-09T19:22:31Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> Durkon clings to the side of the dino rather than riding atop it, and he’s not even knocked off with the rest when the dino tumbles. Vamp spider climb ability in action?

Related question: did the dinosaur do that roll on purposes as part of some “Tumble” skill (for instance, as demonstrated [here](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0108.html) by Elan in panels 8 and 9, or as mentioned by Haley in the antepenultimate panel), possibly thanks to the potions Vaarsuvius fed it? Or was it just a simple trip-and-roll thanks to the encounter with the other big dinosaur?

ETA: Also, I just noticed that Mr. Scruffy also managed to cling to the dinosaur, just like Durkon. Ha!

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7650 "2013-10-09T19:27:59Z")

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> [@chorpler](#):
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> Related question: did the dinosaur do that roll on purposes as part of some “Tumble” skill (for instance, as demonstrated [here](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0108.html) by Elan in panels 8 and 9, or as mentioned by Haley in the antepenultimate panel), possibly thanks to the potions Vaarsuvius fed it? Or was it just a simple trip-and-roll thanks to the encounter with the other big dinosaur?
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> ETA: Also, I just noticed that Mr. Scruffy also managed to cling to the dinosaur, just like Durkon. Ha!

Given the stats for [dinosaurs](http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dinosaur.htm), none of them have tumble as a feat, and none of them have particularly high DEX scores. I think it’s just falling and getting back up.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7651 "2013-10-09T19:30:13Z")

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[Burlew says](http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16182474&postcount=11) the dino just tripped, no Tumbling involved

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7652 "2013-10-09T20:57:28Z")

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Anyone remember which strip Elan first talked about dinosaur rides in? I think there was one from waaaay back . . .

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7653 "2013-10-09T21:08:32Z")

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> [@Gedd](#):
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> Anyone remember which strip Elan first talked about dinosaur rides in? I think there was one from waaaay back . . .

I don’t recall him talking about dino rides, but he got one when Tarquin gave him a tour of the kingdom. It was a big multi-panel strip with cuts between what various members of the OOTS vs what Elan + Tarquin were all doing.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7654 "2013-10-09T21:12:04Z")

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I think it’s just a reference to [this double panel](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0750.html).

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7655 "2013-10-09T21:26:37Z")

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He wants to BE a dino.

[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0693.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0693.html)

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7656 "2013-10-09T21:30:57Z")

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There’s also the bottom two panels of [this](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0726.html) one.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7657 "2013-10-09T21:42:37Z")

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[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0887.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0887.html)

Dream/Illusion sequence(s) while in trapped hallway. Elan dreams of riding dino’s as seen in the spiral.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7658 "2013-10-10T04:56:12Z")

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BTW, can we finally herald the expiration of the the “OMG, they’re going to go through the rift!!” speculation? Are we there yet?

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7659 "2013-10-10T05:54:15Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> BTW, can we finally herald the expiration of the the “OMG, they’re going to go through the rift!!” speculation? Are we there yet?

Is Tarquin standing by the rift? Because if he isn’t, then they might be heading right toward it.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7660 "2013-10-10T06:00:09Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Is Tarquin standing by the rift? Because if he isn’t, then they might be heading right toward it.

I don’t think so – in the 4th-to-last and 3rd-to-last panels, the dinosaur is first leaning up against the bottom of the ramp-like sand pile leading up out of the pit, then coming out of the pit at the top and scattering the crossbow wielders up there. As the strip ends, they’re heading across the open desert at top speed. The rift, of course, is still at the bottom of the pit.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/7661 "2013-10-10T13:37:05Z")

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No doubt to circle around and dive off the pit edge right into the rift. 😃

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