# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/941 "2010-07-02T10:25:03Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> [Two in a row](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0732.html)! 🆒 The updates are always right after midnight eastern it seems…
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> Tho this one is mostly filler (tho it was nice to know how Durkon was going to deal with this latest twist).

Durkon also struck me as being creative with his answers and methods of getting the entry papers…

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/942 "2010-07-02T10:27:03Z")

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It looks like it’s not that hard to get in. They just want a record of all entrants. Maybe the entire party should have come through the fornt gate in the first place…

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/943 "2010-07-02T10:37:52Z")

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> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#):
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> I like how the people of the empire are “denizens”, not citizens.

Slaves are not citizens, and so they’ll need a word that covers both free people and slaves.

Also, it seems that Mr. Scruffy can go for help just like Lassie! I hope this isn’t a running gag…I very much prefer Explosive Runes on things.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/944 "2010-07-02T10:41:43Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> It looks like it’s not that hard to get in. They just want a record of all entrants. Maybe the entire party should have come through the fornt gate in the first place…

They think the normal rules don’t apply to them. It’s a recurring theme.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/945 "2010-07-02T11:59:26Z")

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I’m sure that Roy and Durkon would have followed the rules, had they known about them. I mean, most cities DON’T require visitors to register. Hell, maybe this is the only city on that world to require visitors to check in. None of the other cities in that world seem to require it. But as the lawful PCs, those two would comply.

Of course Belkar and Haley probably wouldn’t be bothered by the rules. Belkar because he makes a point of never obeying rules if he can help it, and Haley because she’s sneaky. Elan is too stupid to understand rules, and V would probably ignore such a rule as being not worth his/her notice.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/946 "2010-07-02T12:44:34Z")

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I hope that Durkon picked up the +4 dagger and +5 Icy Burst bow before he left the tavern. Can’t just leave loot like that lying around.

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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/947 "2010-07-02T13:07:46Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> It looks like it’s not that hard to get in. They just want a record of all entrants. Maybe the entire party should have come through the fornt gate in the first place…

On the official forums some are raising why didn’t Roy and co grab some entry papers; the answer is that they use Wind Walk to enter the city. (Or that they intend to use it as their main form of transport. [Cite](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0698.html))

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/948 "2010-07-02T13:25:29Z")

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Ahem. Post #939.

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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/949 "2010-07-02T13:32:35Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Ahem. Post #939.

Drat. Failed my Spot Check.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/950 "2010-07-07T17:46:43Z")

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[New strip](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0733.html)

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/951 "2010-07-08T01:04:05Z")

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So far, the OOTS Facebook group has:  
Buffoon, Douche, Idiot, Moron, Jackass, Donkeyhead, Peabrain, Fool, Dunce, Dolt, Clown, Nincompoop, Addlepattle, Oxloaf, Monktard, Dumdum, Omnichump and Examoron.

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/952 "2010-07-08T01:25:44Z")

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…stupid, blockhead, imbecile, halfwit, airhead, brainless and, of course, dwarf-for-brains.

There, that’s twenty-five, right?

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/953 "2010-07-08T01:29:59Z")

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I dunno…do hyphenations count as one word in a Sending?

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/954 "2010-07-08T11:40:37Z")

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It’s nice to see a little return to some classic gaming humor.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/955 "2010-07-09T19:42:04Z")

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Already

[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0734.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0734.html)

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/956 "2010-07-09T19:46:00Z")

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I just realized that it’s entirely appropriate for the Empire of Blood’s legal system to be so draconian.

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**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/957 "2010-07-09T20:08:41Z")

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They would never pass a sentence like that on Belkar if they knew how much he was likely to enjoy it.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/958 "2010-07-09T20:22:56Z")

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Again, there are some weird inconsistencies that come with a universe that allows resurrection spells. Assuming you have buddies who can afford a somewhat pricey diamond, then a death sentence would actually be preferable to a life imprisonment. Inconvenient and painful, sure, and you probably lose a level or two, but you’d be out of jail quicker than Lindsay Lohan.

Speaking of which – the high priest of the Empire of Blood is irritated at Nale because Nale killed his family. Given that you’re a high priest (presumably a well-paying profession) who’s almost certainly high enough level to perform resurrection spells, how is this in any way a tragic back story? Isn’t “You killed my family!” pretty much comparable to “You dented the fender on my BMW!” in terms of annoyance in the OOTS universe?

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/959 "2010-07-09T20:37:31Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> Again, there are some weird inconsistencies that come with a universe that allows resurrection spells. Assuming you have buddies who can afford a somewhat pricey diamond, then a death sentence would actually be preferable to a life imprisonment. Inconvenient and painful, sure, and you probably lose a level or two, but you’d be out of jail quicker than Lindsay Lohan.

Unless this is a whoosh, isn’t that the point of this strip?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/960 "2010-07-09T21:02:29Z")

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If someone like Nale wanted someone dead (note: As opposed to wanting them to die, which is not the same thing), then he would take measures to ensure that they stay dead. If Malkir is 16th level or lower, then sufficient scattering of the remains would be enough, and even if he’s capable of casting True Resurrection, there are still soul-binding magics and the like that will prevent even that.

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