# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1081 "2010-08-29T14:33:14Z")

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Show of hands - how many of you saw that this thread was bumped and _immediately_ navigated over to **giantitp** to read the latest strip without even reading **Hal** ’s post?

Thought so. 😃

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1082 "2010-08-29T16:06:49Z")

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Loved Elan’s, “Oh, sorry, guys. I was just thinking. It’s this new thing I’ve been trying.”

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1083 "2010-08-29T16:11:25Z")

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\<raises hand\>

And I just checked it at 11pm last night or so-no new strip at the time…

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1084 "2010-08-29T16:56:20Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Show of hands - how many of you saw that this thread was bumped and _immediately_ navigated over to **giantitp** to read the latest strip without even reading **Hal** ’s post?

Standard operating procedure whenever I see this thread bumped is to go immediately to the OOTS current comic.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1085 "2010-08-29T18:30:52Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Show of hands - how many of you saw that this thread was bumped and _immediately_ navigated over to **giantitp** to read the latest strip without even reading **Hal** ’s post?

**waves hand**

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1086 "2010-08-29T20:04:06Z")

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Well, not _this_ time, but every other time the thread gets bumped.

And for the first time ever, it was the OOTS fan page on facebook that alerted me to a new comic. They usually post their “hey, new comic is up!” notification a good day or two after the comic is posted.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1087 "2010-08-29T20:26:16Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Show of hands - how many of you saw that this thread was bumped and _immediately_ navigated over to **giantitp** to read the latest strip without even reading **Hal** ’s post?

I, for one, don’t do that. When I see this thread’s been updated I come here.

Because there’s usually a convenient link to the new strip.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1088 "2010-08-29T21:25:51Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Show of hands - how many of you saw that this thread was bumped and _immediately_ navigated over to **giantitp** to read the latest strip without even reading **Hal** ’s post?
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> Thought so. 😃

Yeah, me too. I never want to risk getting spoiled for what’s in the latest strip by reading the post announcing it.  
And **Hal** , that was my favorite throwaway line in this strip, too. It was also a clever reminder of Tarquin’s chilling side under his fun and charming exterior.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1089 "2010-08-29T23:02:47Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> > [@silenus](#):
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> > Show of hands - how many of you saw that this thread was bumped and _immediately_ navigated over to **giantitp** to read the latest strip without even reading **Hal** ’s post?
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> > Thought so. 😃
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> Yeah, me too. I never want to risk getting spoiled for what’s in the latest strip by reading the post announcing it.

_sigh_ Ditto.

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> And **Hal** , that was my favorite throwaway line in this strip, too. It was also a clever reminder of Tarquin’s chilling side under his fun and charming exterior.

Er, the quote **Hal** mentioned wasn’t said by Tarquin. Which one did you mean?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1090 "2010-08-30T03:13:41Z")

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speculation (possible spoiler, if correct)

Someone on the OOTS forum suggested that the prisoner in the last panel might be Haley’s father. I think it’s not totally unlikely. His hair was beginning to [turn white](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0608.html)even a few years ago.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1091 "2010-08-30T04:44:20Z")

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I’m really not seeing that one.

First, even aside from the hair color, the beard style is completely different. Sure, OK, it’s an unkempt prisoner beard, but without that, what’s left to compare on? Second, her dad’s a high-level rogue with extensive leadership experience. Toss him in the arena cells with a bunch of other prisoners, he’s going to organize a mass breakout before you can say “lockpicking with improvised tools”. You want to hold onto a guy like that, you toss him into a maximum-security dungeon, and then seal off everything but a three-inch hole for air and food with six feet of stone.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1092 "2010-08-30T07:49:13Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Er, the quote **Hal** mentioned wasn’t said by Tarquin. Which one did you mean?

Crap, that was totally unclear. I meant that I enjoyed the throwaway line about the phoenix paté repeating, and that Tarquin’s cheerfully saying that the liver needs to be cut out of the living phoenix is a reminder of his ruthless side under the fun surface. Sorry for the confusion!

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1093 "2010-09-07T14:52:11Z")

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[New OotS comic is up](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0745.html).

Not quite what we were hoping for, but still fun.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1094 "2010-09-07T14:58:21Z")

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Hmmm. There’s a thread on prison rehabilitation programs in GD. Maybe I should crosslink this strip.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1095 "2010-09-07T16:50:05Z")

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I have to say, Belkar has good taste. [Lidda](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/wi_lidda.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wizards.com/default.asp%3Fx%3Ddnd/whatisdnd&usg=__3F02geqWC8Vu1-mJYw6azzBYEPo=&h=301&w=236&sz=25&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=4mtrqj99QiT1mM:&tbnh=138&tbnw=108&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlidda%26hl%3Den%26c2coff%3D1%26biw%3D1199%26bih%3D889%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=226&vpy=92&dur=357&hovh=240&hovw=188&tx=106&ty=108&ei=8GyGTP-VCoWCsQPg7NT2Bw&oei=tGyGTOq1GYfGsAPHrZT3Bw&esq=11&page=1&ndsp=38&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0) is indeed hot.

(oddly, though, the picture of her dodging a ray doesn’t seem to be online anywhere)

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1096 "2010-09-07T20:12:20Z")

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“It Does Beat Scissors”, hah.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1097 "2010-09-08T03:56:15Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I have to say, Belkar has good taste. [Lidda](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/wi_lidda.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wizards.com/default.asp%3Fx%3Ddnd/whatisdnd&usg=__3F02geqWC8Vu1-mJYw6azzBYEPo=&h=301&w=236&sz=25&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=4mtrqj99QiT1mM:&tbnh=138&tbnw=108&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlidda%26hl%3Den%26c2coff%3D1%26biw%3D1199%26bih%3D889%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=226&vpy=92&dur=357&hovh=240&hovw=188&tx=106&ty=108&ei=8GyGTP-VCoWCsQPg7NT2Bw&oei=tGyGTOq1GYfGsAPHrZT3Bw&esq=11&page=1&ndsp=38&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0) is indeed hot.
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> (oddly, though, the picture of her dodging a ray doesn’t seem to be online anywhere)

There’s another picture I’ve also been unable to find online. It’s the one from Dragon #359, page 116.

Ah, found it. (NSFW?)

[noparse][Dragon Magazine, Issue 359 - Body Modifications - Tattooed Adventurer | JEFFCARLISLE.com](http://www.jeffcarlisle.com/node/270?size=_original%5B/noparse%5D) 😃

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1098 "2010-09-08T05:22:04Z")

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Ah, found a page for [the PHB art](http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ag/20030705a). Not sure why those didn’t show up in Google Images for “Lidda”.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1099 "2010-09-08T05:57:53Z")

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I didn’t even know they had names.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1100 "2010-09-09T13:51:13Z")

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I just noticed these [posters](http://www.giantitp.com/Images/PostersTogetherBig.jpg) on the GitP website, (my new wallpaper). They seem to contain almost every named character in the OotS saga, including very minor ones. As far as I can tell though, there is no Ian Starshine. Seems like too big a name to either be an accidental omission or be left off for no reason. Anybody got any thoughts about that?

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