# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1121 "2010-09-12T19:42:43Z")

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[del]Kukla![/del] Ollie!

Damn, it’s been a long time since I saw that show…

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1122 "2010-09-12T19:44:36Z")

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> [@Trion](#):
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> New strip is up:
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> [746 Ask Your Grandparents - Giant in the Playground Games](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0746.html)
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> Fantastic reference for us old timers. 🙂

HA! Loved it. Man, that brings me back.

Not to see conspiracies everywhere, but could that bearded dude be…

Ian Starshine? [See pic here.](http://oots.wikia.com/wiki/Ian_Starshine)

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1123 "2010-09-12T20:30:22Z")

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It’s an Ollie-saurus!

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1124 "2010-09-12T20:30:33Z")

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> [@Trion](#):
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> New strip is up:
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> [746 Ask Your Grandparents - Giant in the Playground Games](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0746.html)
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> Fantastic reference for us old timers. 🙂

I have no idea what that is.

please put replies in spoiler boxes, so you don’t ruin the joke for anyone who hasn’t read the strip.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1125 "2010-09-12T21:05:22Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> Not to see conspiracies everywhere, but could that bearded dude be…
> 
> Ian Starshine? [See pic here.](http://oots.wikia.com/wiki/Ian_Starshine)

Yeah, that has been suggested before. It’s certainly a possibility.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1126 "2010-09-12T22:06:21Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> > [@Trion](#):
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> > New strip is up:
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> > [746 Ask Your Grandparents - Giant in the Playground Games](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0746.html)
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> > Fantastic reference for us old timers. 🙂
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> I have no idea what that is.
> 
> please put replies in spoiler boxes, so you don’t ruin the joke for anyone who hasn’t read the strip.

According to the OOTS forums it’s from:

[QUOTE=SPoD]

Kukla, Fran, and Ollie, an influential TV puppet show from the 1950’s and 60’s. Specifically, that’s Ollie, the dragon.

[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1127 "2010-09-13T03:48:35Z")

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Specifically, it is a dinosauroid variant, with fangs. Making it… not an allosaurus, but an… -Saurus.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1128 "2010-09-14T07:40:32Z")

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I almost had it; I thought it was an HR Pufenstuff reference.

Ehh, it was all LSD-based back then.

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**Author:** ![Heller\_Highwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@Heller\_Highwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heller_Highwater)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1129 "2010-09-16T04:54:54Z")

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Another new strip is up: [here](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0747.html).

Does Neutralize Poison work on the effects of alcohol? Might make things either much better or horribly worse.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1130 "2010-09-16T05:16:49Z")

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A poster question. On the good guys poster, who is the character in the lower left corner with the brown beard and the red boots?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1131 "2010-09-16T05:35:55Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> A poster question. On the good guys poster, who is the character in the lower left corner with the brown beard and the red boots?

That’s Sir Francois, the paladin that Elan worked for before he joined up with Roy.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1132 "2010-09-16T06:43:05Z")

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I have to try some of those chaotic spices.

Note that this is not the first time in the comic that we’ve seen spices with alignment. In _Start of Darkness_, there’s an evil diner that imports all their spices straight from the Lower Planes.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1133 "2010-09-16T23:17:34Z")

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Well we know from Xykon’s critique of MITD’s warcry that nutmeg just isn’t evil at all

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1134 "2010-09-25T03:58:27Z")

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New strip – [#748 is here](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0748.html)!

Best sound effect…

Thjunk!

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1135 "2010-09-25T04:01:23Z")

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I totally missed that! Thanks for the observation.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1136 "2010-09-25T06:28:56Z")

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> [@](#):
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> How about nut shots?

I love Belkar. I love Xykon, too. I bought _Start of Darkness_ on Thursday, and finished it that night. Belkar is just not a team player, or at least, he can’t remember the team objective very well.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1137 "2010-09-25T07:54:49Z")

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Attack ranks! I remember attack ranks.

Man, I’m old.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1138 "2010-09-25T11:06:36Z")

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A reference I don’t get …

Who is Saget

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1139 "2010-09-25T11:21:55Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> A reference I don’t get …
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> Who is Saget

Bob Saget was the host of ‘American’s Funniest Home Videos’ for years, which seems to have featured a disproportionate number of videos featuring men getting whacked in the Man Parts with baseballs, baseball bats, toddlers who ran into them at full force, golf clubs, 2X4s, etc.

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**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1140 "2010-09-25T12:55:28Z")

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What was the thing about halflings not being allowed to advance past level 8? That’s not something I remember hearing- was it a first edition rule or something?

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