# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1161 "2010-10-01T17:29:20Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> I’m going to be heading to my comic book store and see if they have the OOTS books I keep hearing about.

Both the origin books are totally worth reading. They’re just so _short_. ☹

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1162 "2010-10-01T17:38:40Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> What’s really annoying is checking to see if a new strip is up, then discovering from work that they posted it right after you left home! Giant In The Playground is blocked from work because it has “tit” in the url. :rolleyes:

I won’t leave it up past the end of the day (so’s to not step on Rich’s toes), but [here ya go](http://www.sirblah.com/misc/for_silenus.gif).

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1163 "2010-10-01T18:04:07Z")

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You, sir, are a prince among men. I shall drink a toast in your honor this evening!

**shantih** , OTOH, has been put on a list. 😛

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1164 "2010-10-01T20:29:50Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> > [@Enderw24](#):
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> > I’m going to be heading to my comic book store and see if they have the OOTS books I keep hearing about.
> 
> Both the origin books are totally worth reading. They’re just so _short_. ☹

So I went to a comic book store during lunch today and asked the guy about OOTS. He’d never heard of it.  
NEVER HEARD OF IT? I thought. I mean, yeah, I’d never heard of it before about two months ago, but, you know, I’m not the comic book guy and he is.

He asked what it was and I said it was a webcomic in print form and he asked if it was published by Dark Horse. I didn’t think so, but it gave me the idea to look through some old Angel comics for my wife.

I bought one, and was literally halfway out the door when out of the corner of my eye I spied something. I turned towards the rack and there it was, bottom shelf. Start of Darkness.

Comic book guy sold it to me for half off. Score.

Now to resist the temptation to read it before I get my hands on Orgins of the PC.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1165 "2010-10-01T20:41:04Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Now to resist the temptation to read it before I get my hands on Orgins of the PC.

Don’t worry about that - nothing in Start of Darkness is a spoiler for anything in Origin of the PCs. The only parts where the plots in the two books touch at all is when Xykon kills Roy’s dad’s master, and I don’t think anything is revealed about that event that you wouldn’t already know from reading the regular comic.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1166 "2010-10-01T20:43:05Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Now to resist the temptation to read it before I get my hands on Orgins of the PC.

What **Miller** said. Get reading.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1167 "2010-10-01T21:39:04Z")

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Really, there’s not much to spoil about _Origins of the PCs_. It’s more joke than storyline, and what parts of it are relevant have pretty much already come up in the main comic.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1168 "2010-10-01T22:05:07Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> > [@Bosstone](#):
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> > Both the origin books are totally worth reading. They’re just so _short_. ☹
> 
> So I went to a comic book store during lunch today and asked the guy about OOTS. He’d never heard of it.  
> NEVER HEARD OF IT? I thought. I mean, yeah, I’d never heard of it before about two months ago, but, you know, I’m not the comic book guy and he is.
> 
> He asked what it was and I said it was a webcomic in print form and he asked if it was published by Dark Horse. I didn’t think so, but it gave me the idea to look through some old Angel comics for my wife.
> 
> I bought one, and was literally halfway out the door when out of the corner of my eye I spied something. I turned towards the rack and there it was, bottom shelf. Start of Darkness.
> 
> Comic book guy sold it to me for half off. Score.
> 
> Now to resist the temptation to read it before I get my hands on Orgins of the PC.

I had the opposite experience - my comic book guy didn’t have them in stock, but he seemed very impressed that I had heard of OotS. He started telling me how it was a terrific comic and how it was impossible to get hold of them; I made sympathetic noises, went home and ordered the prequels from Rich’s website.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1169 "2010-10-01T23:58:56Z")

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Man, Haley’s a smooth liar. Guess you’d have to be, if you were her class. And she’s smart enough to realize that arguing with Elan about Tarquin is, at this point, a waste of time, and that he’ll need to figure things out for himself.

Though I’m not sure - will Elan be upset with the inevitable discovery of his father’s evilness, or at least somewhat pleased at how dramatic the revelation will doubtlessly be?

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1170 "2010-10-02T03:33:41Z")

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Man the artistic style got me again. I spend ten minutes trying to figure out what the symbolic ramifications of the post-coital future former Mrs. Tarquin carrying an egg were.

Then I realized it’s just the doorknob. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1171 "2010-10-02T04:31:41Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> Man the artistic style got me again. I spend ten minutes trying to figure out what the symbolic ramifications of the post-coital future former Mrs. Tarquin carrying an egg were.
> 
> Then I realized it’s just the doorknob. :smack:

Ha, I wondered that for a bit too. And what is Tarquin doing with _his_ egg, juggling it?.._oh!_

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1172 "2010-10-02T14:45:04Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> Man the artistic style got me again. I spend ten minutes trying to figure out what the symbolic ramifications of the post-coital future former Mrs. Tarquin carrying an egg were.
> 
> Then I realized it’s just the doorknob. :smack:

Word. I came where to say exactly that.

Oh, and **Little Nemo**? Haley cleavage is _never_ gratuitous. And I’m patiently waiting for her hair to grow back.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1173 "2010-10-02T20:23:51Z")

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I still can’t figure out just why she looks so nekkid in that first panel. I mean, we’re not really seeing anything more than we did in the evening gown she was wearing a few strips ago.

Not that I’m complaining, mind you.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1174 "2010-10-02T22:03:54Z")

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It’s a psychological thing. We’ve sen her cleavage lots of times before, to say nothing of midriff but here she’s in bed and she’s showing shoulders and cleavage. Ergo, she’s at least topless or even . . . naked.

'Scuse me a minute.

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**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1175 "2010-10-02T22:15:05Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> It’s a psychological thing. We’ve sen her cleavage lots of times before, to say nothing of midriff but here she’s in bed and she’s showing shoulders and cleavage. Ergo, she’s at least topless or even . . . naked.
> 
> 'Scuse me a minute.

I’ll be in my bunk.

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**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1176 "2010-10-13T03:55:30Z")

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[Well it’s about damn time …](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0750.html)

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1177 "2010-10-13T04:18:04Z")

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It’s good Elan had fun with his dad.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1178 "2010-10-13T04:23:57Z")

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The skeletons in the ball pit were a nice touch.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1179 "2010-10-13T04:33:50Z")

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And the giant statue of Elan’s dad beheading the peasant.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1180 "2010-10-13T04:38:58Z")

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I took me a minute to figure out I’m supposed to read the entire page from left to right. But I still feel I’m missing some of the subtleties of the panel placements. Is there a pattern I’m missing?

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