# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/121 "2009-09-17T16:16:55Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Just a feeling I have. I just don’t see him getting out of his Soul Splice deal any other way. > > The way I see it, Belkar and Durkon are dead meat, V’s prospects aren’t looking good, Roy won’t die again (too redundant) and Elan, of course, will have his happy ending - which means that Haley will survive, too. The Belkar/Durkon deaths don’t really worry me too much. In a world with Resurrection/Raise Dead/Wish spells, death is (more or less) temporary. Durkon’s prophecy was that he wouldn’t return to his homeland alive…which doesn’t preclude his body being returned to his temple’s high priest for Resurrection. And as for Belkar…I don’t know. I can see him cheating death (actually, I can see him backstabbing Death and stealing his scythe and cloak). I’m willing to bet that at the end of Book 5 they’ll all be alive or at least plausibly revivable. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/122 "2009-09-17T16:28:23Z")
I wouldn’t be suprised if Belkar pulled a [Screw Destiny](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScrewDestiny) and stayed alive just out of spite. Roy: Uh, Belkar, weren’t you supposed to be dead for several strips already? Belkar: _waves daggers_ Just try and do something about it. Back on topic, poor V still can’t catch a break. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/123 "2009-09-17T16:36:51Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > …barring baubles… The bauble thing is just a nod to ravens having a penchant for shiny objects, right? ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/124 "2009-09-17T16:40:29Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Does anyone here believe V will survive the end of the story? Not in a wider sense. V is a classic [tragic hero](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragic_hero), which means that he’ll at least be ruined if not dead. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/125 "2009-09-17T17:33:50Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > The bauble thing is just a nod to ravens having a penchant for shiny objects, right? That seems to be the case, yes. ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/126 "2009-09-17T22:58:36Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > I wouldn’t be suprised if Belkar pulled a [Screw Destiny](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScrewDestiny) and stayed alive just out of spite. See, that’s just not nice. It’s late, I’m tired, I should already be asleep, and that’s going to be problematic if I spend the next three DAYS following one tvtropes link after another. Just one more and I’ll turn off the laptop … ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/127 "2009-09-18T00:18:27Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Just a feeling I have. I just don’t see him getting out of his Soul Splice deal any other way. > > The way I see it, Belkar and Durkon are dead meat, V’s prospects aren’t looking good, Roy won’t die again (too redundant) and Elan, of course, will have his happy ending - which means that Haley will survive, too. Umm, I htink Elan got his happy ending somewhere between [strip 400](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0400.html) and [strip 401](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0401.html), if you catch my drift. 😃 And probably on several subsequent occasions. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/128 "2009-09-18T01:03:36Z")
> [@ultrafilter](#): > > Not in a wider sense. V is a classic [tragic hero](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragic_hero), which means that he’ll at least be ruined if not dead. They do say that “whoever the gods want to destroy, they first make mad” - and V’s got a big headstart there 😃 ---
**Author:** ![iftheresaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ecae2f/32.png) [@iftheresaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iftheresaway)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/129 "2009-09-18T16:06:28Z")
Whew! I have finally read everything there is to read online about OOTS (help me out and let me pretend there is no such thing as a GitP forum, 'kay?) I’ve seen all these OOTS threads before, but I always thought it was a TV show or something and wasn’t particularly interested. Then someone at the Giraffe boards posted about a webcomic they loved, and I thought to myself, “what the heck? I’ve got a couple of hours to kill.” That was about a week ago, and I’ve spent every spare moment (i.e. those not devoted to sleep, work, or the beginning-to-end Lost marathon my brother and I are conducting) reading the entire comic, the 2000+ post original thread, this thread, the one at 'Raffe, and anything else I could find. It was _amazing_. I am definitely buying all the books! I want this to be a cartoon and a video game. I added it to my RSS feed. And now… I have to wait for new strips to come out like everyone else instead of having 600-odd strips to plow through in one sitting? Damn it, cruel fate! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/130 "2009-09-18T16:26:07Z")
Another one snared…excellent! Bwahahahahaaaa! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/131 "2009-09-22T04:22:06Z")
New strip up [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0680.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0680.html) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/132 "2009-09-22T04:49:31Z")
And an old plot thread has officially been picked up. ---
**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/133 "2009-09-22T05:48:23Z")
Logically, if the kingdom is that messed up that it doesn’t exist anymore, then Haley’s dad’s ransom is probably null and void by now. Either someone else took him prisoner (and doesn’t know about or plan on honoring the ransom), set him free, or just killed him. But the Elan in me thinks it wouldn’t be resolved that way… ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/134 "2009-09-22T06:33:42Z")
I have to admit, when I read the title, I expected to see Explosive Runes. Love the Roy/Belkar interaction offstage! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/135 "2009-09-22T13:31:42Z")
Haley’s new character design is really bothering me. I think it’s the fact that her cleavage looks really awkward on Burlew’s basic model. ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/136 "2009-09-23T12:46:31Z")
New strip is up. [Strip 681](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0681.html) They’re coming quick. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/137 "2009-09-23T16:49:50Z")
Seriously! I didn’t even check it this morning. This whole “frequent updates” thing is pretty cool. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/138 "2009-09-24T01:21:26Z")
The message boards reminded me that the little old lady in the flashback may be a sweet little old lady, but she’s a sweet little old lady _who lives in Greysky City_, which makes Haley’s dad’s warnings all too reasonable. Nice touch there. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/139 "2009-09-24T02:48:38Z")
Or, for that matter, might be a creepy 30-something man with a bunch of ranks in the Disguise skill. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/140 "2009-09-24T02:50:59Z")
OK, after seeing this thread, I decided to check out this OOTS thingy. That was a few weeks ago. Now I’m up to speed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=8)