# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 75
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1481 "2010-12-29T00:59:34Z")
Clearly, Tarquin has read the [Evil Overlord’s guidelines](http://www.proft.org/tips/evil.html) and has taken them to heart. Remember, people, Evil does not equal Stupid! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1482 "2010-12-29T01:43:44Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Clearly, Tarquin has read the [Evil Overlord’s guidelines](http://www.proft.org/tips/evil.html) and has taken them to heart. And as pointed out on the OOTS forum, not only has he read it, he distributes copies to his minions! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1483 "2010-12-29T11:53:07Z")
What is that tiny poster on the fence in the second panel? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1484 "2010-12-29T12:14:35Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > What is that tiny poster on the fence in the second panel? It’s the gladiator poster from [#741](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0741.html). ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1485 "2011-01-01T00:48:00Z")
It’s past midnight over this side of the pond, so let me wish all OOTS fans a very \*\*Dxyye Mwp Ewxk. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1486 "2011-01-07T19:24:47Z")
[And yes, there is a Santa Claus](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0767.html) I feel bad for Guard #4. I hope he lands on his feet again soon. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1487 "2011-01-07T20:01:51Z")
I like that “Philter” was updated to “Potion.” ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1488 "2011-01-07T21:04:00Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > I think that she would be completely and totally satisfied in that case, no matter how uncomfortable she was physically. Well, afterwards, they might feel [gelty](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah_gelt). ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1489 "2011-01-07T22:14:46Z")
Something I missed in the first reading – check out how Guard #5 goes off-panel in the next-to-last panel. Har! ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1490 "2011-01-08T08:49:15Z")
Notice how Haley uses the last of the Glibness to reassure Elan. She really does love him. Personally, I’d have strangled him long ago. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1491 "2011-01-08T10:39:10Z")
On re-reading I notice guard 1 and 2s exit conversation about “nothing ever happening” at the palace. I guess something big, (like a full scale uprising) is about to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Shooby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@Shooby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shooby)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1492 "2011-01-08T12:29:30Z")
Wow, +30 to bluff? Isn’t that a skill level that only high epic-level characters can achieve? More importantly, when are they going to give Belkar some of that? ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1493 "2011-01-08T15:40:03Z")
I think I could reach +30 with a… uhm, half-elf? by level 4. It’s a fun concept, horrible to play. Haley’s is probably… allowing for Rogue… rogue always needs more skill points… call it +12 or so naturally. God, what a lovely fun potion. … I do got to wonder where Elan’s been dumping his skill points. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1494 "2011-01-08T17:48:21Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Notice how Haley uses the last of the Glibness to reassure Elan. She really does love him. Personally, I’d have strangled him long ago. Apparently his qualities are good looks and a pleasant nature. So Haley had a choice between falling in love with Elan and getting a collie. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1495 "2011-01-08T18:49:56Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Apparently his qualities are good looks and a pleasant nature. So Haley had a choice between falling in love with Elan and **getting a collie.** That last is bringing up images I’d rather not have. Where’s the brain bleach? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1496 "2011-01-08T19:46:31Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > That last is bringing up images I’d rather not have. Where’s the brain bleach? Don’t blame me. You’re the one who read all that Belkar/Mr Scruffy slash. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1497 "2011-01-09T02:25:25Z")
I think I will now start using “You are a yellow-footed rock wallaby” as the final line in an argument. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1498 "2011-01-09T04:28:22Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Apparently his qualities are good looks and a pleasant nature. So Haley had a choice between falling in love with Elan and getting a collie. Let’s see…Roy is way too lawful for her, and he’s smart enough to avoid falling for some of her tricks. V is sexually ambiguous, and is really not a good mate, and is also recovering from a marital breakup. Durkon is also way too lawful for her, even if she could get past the race barrier. Belkar isn’t into long term relationships. So yeah, it does seem to be a choice between Elan and a collie. The collie would probably have more intelligence and good sense. ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1499 "2011-01-09T15:46:07Z")
However, Elan is likely to shed somewhat less. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1500 "2011-01-09T22:45:38Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Don’t blame me. You’re the one who read all that Belkar/Mr Scruffy slash. Damn. I need to pull the shades tighter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=74) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=76)