# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1541 "2011-01-27T01:16:44Z")

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Only insofar as he doesn’t seem to know about Tarquin’s long con; he may think that he’s just another two-bit man in the shadows.

But it does harm my hope, no question. Oh well.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1542 "2011-01-27T01:22:54Z")

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(Too late to add: besides, Ian implies that it was his sister and brother-in-law that were the real drive behind his involvement; how invested is he in overthrowing Tarquin himself?)

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1543 "2011-01-29T00:07:53Z")

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New strip  
[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0771.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0771.html)  
Crikey, Ian’s really paranoid.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1544 "2011-01-29T01:35:54Z")

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Like I said, you can take the boy out of Greysky City… It was most likely your best survival mechanism there. That and he’s been in the prison of a conniving warlord for the pats few years.

I wonder what’ll happen once she tells her dad she loves Elan? Probably won’t change his mind.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1545 "2011-01-29T06:39:44Z")

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“Ok, yes, but it was consensual every time, sir!”

I love it.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1546 "2011-01-29T08:44:38Z")

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Ian, Tarquin… everyone has their own narrative - their own version of how events must fit into their own story, with themselves at the center. It’s almost po-mo.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1547 "2011-01-29T09:29:04Z")

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> [@Hypno-Toad](#):
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> I just realized that if Roy and crowd decide to become brigands, they can change their name to The Order of the Stick-Up.

Bad Hypno-Toad. [Two minutes in the box.](http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1410)

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1548 "2011-01-29T14:28:40Z")

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Ian doesn’t listen to Haley terribly well, does he?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1549 "2011-01-29T16:38:34Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> Ian doesn’t listen to Haley terribly well, does he?

Which may be the narrative reason for countering the glibness potion with the antimagic field.

Hey, now that I think about it, didn’t V communicate with Roy with a message spell while he was in the prison? Shouldn’t that have been blocked by the antimagic field, too?

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1550 "2011-01-29T18:18:23Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> Ian doesn’t listen to Haley terribly well, does he?

What parent does listen to their adult children?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1551 "2011-01-29T18:19:04Z")

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> [@Lok](#):
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> What parent does listen to their adult children?

Amen.

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**Author:** ![Heller\_Highwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@Heller\_Highwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heller_Highwater)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1552 "2011-01-29T18:28:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
Hey, now that I think about it, didn’t V communicate with Roy with a message spell while he was in the prison? Shouldn’t that have been blocked by the antimagic field, too?  
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I remember that happening, too, but I looked it up and they were in the [courtyard](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0741.html) (or whatever you want to call it) when it happened. I think the AMF doesn’t extend out that far.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1553 "2011-01-31T18:36:58Z")

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[New page](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0772.html).

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1554 "2011-01-31T18:46:54Z")

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Ouch. I guess Ian _is_ that disfunctional.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1555 "2011-01-31T19:20:10Z")

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'scuse me. Something in my eye.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1556 "2011-01-31T20:22:45Z")

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> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#):
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> Ouch. I guess Ian _is_ that disfunctional.

A bit of Miko Miyazaki in him.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1557 "2011-01-31T21:05:24Z")

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Now that you mention it, he does have the same sort of streak of ego. I wonder what he would think of the comparison (assuming he knew who Miko was, of course).

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1558 "2011-01-31T21:11:53Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I wonder what he would think of the comparison

It wouldn’t matter to him, since Miko would _obviously_ have been working for Tarquin.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1559 "2011-01-31T22:15:10Z")

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I didn’t have the reason right. But I’m giving myself half a point for calling that Ian would refuse to leave (and that Haley could have used that glibness effect).

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/1560 "2011-01-31T22:45:55Z")

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I’m just going to point out the identical oh-you-have-GOT-to-be-kidding-me poses Ian and Roy make in the 8th and 9th panels. Go Banjo!

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