# Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323 "2009-08-31T04:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/161 "2009-10-06T12:39:18Z")
More of a side quest. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/162 "2009-10-06T13:10:25Z")
I don’t have a Monster Manual handy - what are those things? ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/163 "2009-10-06T13:29:48Z")
I think they’re Thri-Kreen, from the Expanded Psionic Handbook and Monster Manual II. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/164 "2009-10-06T13:31:41Z")
Ooh! Maybe we’ll finally find out whether the OotS world has psionics! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/165 "2009-10-06T14:06:38Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > I think they’re Thri-Kreen, from the Expanded Psionic Handbook and Monster Manual II. This would make sense, since they are generally desert creatures. They were a major race in the Dark Sun setting, for instance. ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/166 "2009-10-06T15:06:32Z")
“Stupid, entirely justified comeuppance!” - ROFL ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/167 "2009-10-06T15:16:01Z")
I have to say, the fact that Belkar even understands the \*concept \*of justice represents a huge amount of progress. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/168 "2009-10-06T15:51:34Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Ooh! Maybe we’ll finally find out whether the OotS world has psionics! [I think I can, I think I can…](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0494.html) ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/169 "2009-10-06T16:23:23Z")
> [@Just\_Some\_Guy](#): > > Hey, [a new one](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0683.html). > > Subplot, ahoy! Fixed link. Why does Elan think V is half-camel? Is he just being silly, or am I missing a pun here? ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/170 "2009-10-06T16:28:00Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Fixed link. > > Why does Elan think V is half-camel? Is he just being silly, or am I missing a pun here? It’s from waaay back in [Comic #87](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0087.html). That’s why V calls Elan a “bottomless pit of self-reference”–'cuz he’s always referring to obscure stuff from earlier in the comic. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/171 "2009-10-06T16:30:39Z")
Never mind… **pedescribe** beat me to it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/172 "2009-10-06T18:53:14Z")
Hey, look who’s in the bathroom line ahead of Haley! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/173 "2009-10-06T19:46:57Z")
Who? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/174 "2009-10-06T20:01:32Z")
“I Think I Can” could still conceivably have been fiction within that world, just like we could have a story about a psion in our world. The more conclusive evidence is [the psionic blue Redcloak used to interrogate O-chul](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0546.html). ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/175 "2009-10-06T20:14:03Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > “I Think I Can” could still conceivably have been fiction within that world, just like we could have a story about a psion in our world. The more conclusive evidence is [the psionic blue Redcloak used to interrogate O-chul](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0546.html). Also, in “On the Origin of PCs,” a psion is among those auditioning to join the party. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/176 "2009-10-06T20:26:03Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Who? A pixie with a resemblance to Celia, but isn’t her? The snake haired woman from the [Blind Date marathon](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0416.html)? ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/177 "2009-10-07T02:46:59Z")
Good catch, but yes, the pixie with the resemblance to Celia… who is _normal pixie sized_. I find that interesting. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/178 "2009-10-07T02:48:16Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Good catch, but yes, the pixie with the resemblance to Celia… who is _normal pixie sized_. I find that interesting. I thought Celia was a sylph. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/179 "2009-10-07T08:16:57Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > “I Think I Can” could still conceivably have been fiction within that world, just like we could have a story about a psion in our world. The more conclusive evidence is [the psionic blue Redcloak used to interrogate O-chul](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0546.html). I guess I glossed over this reading it before, but Redcloak is offered an “18th level Incarnum user” but prefers a magic 8 ball. I’m not very knowledgeable about D&D, but I looked it up and it seemed like Incarnum had some useful powers. Why such a brusque dismissal? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323/180 "2009-10-07T12:55:09Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > I guess I glossed over this reading it before, but Redcloak is offered an “18th level Incarnum user” but prefers a magic 8 ball. I’m not very knowledgeable about D&D, but I looked it up and it seemed like Incarnum had some useful powers. Why such a brusque dismissal? It’s a joke. The stuff in Magic of Incarnum was received, by and large, with astounding indifference by D&D fans. Thus, Redcloak humorously rates it as less useful than the Magic 8-Ball and the fortune cookies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-5-discussion-thread/508323.md?page=10)