# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 110
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2181 "2015-12-03T14:57:26Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > Good to see that Bloodfeast still has some fighting spirit. I’m betting that V will enter since surely she feels Blackwings distress. Potentially, Bloodfeast still has the hit points of an allosaurus although he needs to make a Will check once a day or else would take on the hit points of a lizard (if the _Polymorph_ is dispelled he’d revert to normal hp). I thought that perhaps he had the attack dice of an allosaurus and that’s why he could harm Gondor but that doesn’t seem to be the case and I suppose Gondor getting harmed (however slightly) by nonmagical lizard teeth was artistic license. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > She is not a very caring familiar-master, though, even if she has stopped forgetting blackwing exists. V seems to have improved her relationship with Blackwing considerably since even V’s initial epiphany. V treats Blackwing as something of an equal, worthy of being asked rather than commanded and, for instance, didn’t just take Blackwing’s ioun stone despite it being of considerable value to a caster. Old V cared only for power and thus had no interest in Blackwing’s existence when it did not directly benefit her and would have certainly claimed the ioun stone as being her’s (given that Blackwing is her’s) to increase her spellcasting. That she didn’t says volumes for her growth as a person and her relationship with Blackwing. V did dismiss Blackwing’s initial empathic call of distress but only because V has been receiving them regularly since boarding the ship and has presumably checked in before. Otherwise V wouldn’t have known that the prior times were about the pirates laying money-eyes on the bracelet. ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2182 "2015-12-03T18:38:52Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Hmm, so thralls can make decisions, and skirt the rules. I bet that Durkula has already released the new vampire from thralldom. He referred to him as “my high priest” rather than “master”, and when Durkula was still in thrall he didn’t even have enough sense to stay out of direct sunlight, much less speak in complex sentences. Maybe they were even buddies as negative energy spirits in Hel’s domain before all this got started. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2183 "2015-12-04T04:31:22Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > any chance Belkar could land on the ship whilst falling and come to the rescue? No way. He fell long ago, and the ship seems above the mountains anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2184 "2015-12-04T05:41:43Z")
That’s what I thought at first. However the timing has not been established. It may be that Darkon sent his minion on the mission before he went after Belkar. He could be biting Belkar right now. As for the ship, it [looks like](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1012.html)it’s lower than the peak, while the moot is [right at the top](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0992.html). ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2185 "2015-12-04T05:58:51Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > As for the ship, it [looks like](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1012.html)it’s lower than the peak, while the moot is [right at the top](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0992.html). [But the ship is nowhere in sight in the panel of Belkar falling into the chasm.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0996.html) ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2186 "2015-12-04T13:04:07Z")
More importantly, V has established that, at the very least, the discussions between the Gods have started, if not the battle itself (“A good deal of yellow light and a few solid thumps”), and Belkar met his doom well before that. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2187 "2015-12-04T14:44:55Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [But the ship is nowhere in sight in the panel of Belkar falling into the chasm.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0996.html) Remember that the ship moves at the speed of the plot, so if it’s needed to be in a particular place to catch Belkar, it will be there. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2188 "2015-12-04T15:14:32Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Remember that the ship moves at the speed of the plot, so if it’s needed to be in a particular place to catch Belkar, it will be there. True but, as **yellowjacketcoder** points out, unless Belkar falls at the speed of cotton fluff he’s well below airship altitude by now. Potentially below ground level as well 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2189 "2015-12-05T06:34:40Z")
I get that Rich is trying to draw out the suspense or whatever, but ugh. I’ve gotten whiplash from the extreme cessation of interesting action following that battle. ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2190 "2015-12-14T16:33:43Z")
New strip - [1015: Climb Every Mountain](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1015.html) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2191 "2015-12-14T16:47:19Z")
HA! I knew it, deep in my heart. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2192 "2015-12-14T16:50:46Z")
Yay belkar! ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2193 "2015-12-14T17:13:32Z")
Man, Belkar’s buying _Featherfall_ items and Durkon’s biting… half-giant priests? Whole lot of stuff going on off-panel. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2194 "2015-12-14T17:48:12Z")
Belkar rocks (vs. getting smashed to bits on the rocks). ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2195 "2015-12-14T17:49:57Z")
Great update. About time. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2196 "2015-12-14T18:01:23Z")
Finally, back to the interesting stuff. ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2197 "2015-12-14T18:04:52Z")
Kick-ass! Look at how our favorite sexy shoeless god of war has evolved, thinking ahead and all. Go Belkar! ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2198 "2015-12-14T19:18:15Z")
Yeah, do you think he has gained a point or two of wisdom? Any chance he can cast Ranger spells? ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2199 "2015-12-14T19:45:44Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Man, Belkar’s buying _Featherfall_ items and Durkon’s biting… half-giant priests? Whole lot of stuff going on off-panel. I think it’s a Goliath, not a half-giant. So all Belkar needs is a slingshot… Did anyone else notice V and Blackwing in the background of the flashback panel? Looks like they just left that merchant’s shop, since Blackwing is wearing the bauble. Also, if they were coming to the shop, Belkar would still be there and he wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2200 "2015-12-14T20:25:47Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Yeah, do you think he has gained a point or two of wisdom? Any chance he can cast Ranger spells? He chooses where he puts his points, and I can’t see the Belkster putting those points towards WIS. Even then, he’d need a WIS equal to 10 + spell level, which even if he’d gotten up to 10, means he can’t cast anything, since he’d need a WIS of 11 to cast first level spells. EVEN THEN, there’s not a lot on the ranger spell list I can see him preparing in advance (maybe Jump or Resist Energy), and he only gets 2 spells per day. Long story short, in the unlikely even he can now cast spells, there’s almost no chance he has anything helpful prepared. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=109) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=111)