# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 114
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2261 "2015-12-19T12:45:41Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > So — nobody else thinks the Feather Fall item is the gloves? > [@puzzlegal](#): > > I guess I don’t care very much what the featherfall item is? Fair enough. But we did just witness nearly a full page of this thread being used to argue about whether he should have needed one in the first place… ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2262 "2015-12-19T14:21:19Z")
Okay, just reread back ten comics and one of them said that if they leave the room, the vote could be nullified. Are they really going to teleport away and take that chance? ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2263 "2015-12-19T14:28:40Z")
Missed the edit window. I don’t think Durkula can leave as he is the high priest of Hel and if he leaves, the assumption is that vote is nullified. Further, it seems to me that the other high priests should take umbrage at the fact that the minion was able to bypass wards and enter in gaseous form, since we have seen that the room is supposed to be shielded against anyone coming or going during this. It will be interesting to see what Rich has planned for it! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2264 "2015-12-19T16:20:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **galen ubal** : > > Not fond of this new development - just get on with it, already, Rich! This _is_ getting on with it. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2265 "2015-12-19T19:21:26Z")
Hey, why isn’t King Davlin all glowy in panel five? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2266 "2015-12-19T19:33:57Z")
That was sort of weird. It seemed more like the priest was channeling Davlin directly rather than creating a proxy hologram. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2267 "2015-12-20T01:00:22Z")
They all did. [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0999.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0999.html) [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1012.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1012.html) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2268 "2015-12-20T02:37:32Z")
> [@vislor](#): > > Okay, just reread back ten comics and one of them said that if they leave the room, the vote could be nullified. Are they really going to teleport away and take that chance? The key phrase during the recess appears to be “pass[ing] through the arch.” ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2269 "2015-12-20T02:45:00Z")
> [@vislor](#): > > Missed the edit window. > > I don’t think Durkula can leave as he is the high priest of Hel and if he leaves, the assumption is that vote is nullified. > > Further, it seems to me that the other high priests should take umbrage at the fact that the minion was able to bypass wards and enter in gaseous form, since we have seen that the room is supposed to be shielded against anyone coming or going during this. > > It will be interesting to see what Rich has planned for it! By the specific claim in panel 7, it only matters if the non-participants go through the arches. I assume the smoke could go through a window or something. And, of course, teleportation means they don’t go though anything. The only loophole I see right now would be Roy sending a message of some sort. How far off is the dwarven council? Either that or he can maybe decline his own official role since he was their under false pretenses, (As he thought he was Durkon’s official bodyguard, not this other being who isn’t actually Durkon.) and then maybe someone high level teleport him. It could count as preventing interference rather than interfering themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2270 "2015-12-20T02:57:34Z")
It seems pretty dubious that a deity wouldn’t notice that all of his chieftains, whom he has called to a meeting, have been magically dominated. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2271 "2015-12-20T03:24:00Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > It seems pretty dubious that a deity wouldn’t notice that all of his chieftains, whom he has called to a meeting, have been magically dominated. Yeah, but it seems dubious that those of the Godsmoot wouldn’t know what’s going on in their meeting, either. Yet we were explicitly told they couldn’t hear or see what was going on. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2272 "2015-12-20T03:27:40Z")
That’s different. The gods weren’t at the moot to speak to mortals. The priests were there purely to act as infrastructure for a teleconference. The dwarven god, on the other hand, has said that he’s going to directly consult with his followers. Different kettle of fish altogether. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2273 "2015-12-20T13:14:09Z")
Something tells me that Davlin’s the kind of guy who wouldn’t let a little thing like that influence his determination to vote the way the priests tell him to. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2274 "2015-12-20T13:58:17Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > They all did. > > [999 The Vote in Gods' Aye - Giant in the Playground Games](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0999.html) All those guys created giant translucent proxy images\* (which the other priests could see) to cast votes. Davlin’s priest just glows, and doesn’t glow at all in panel 5 despite the yellow speech bubble. Maybe we’re supposed to assume that the deities are speaking through the priests but, in panel seven, Hel and Loki are chatting directly instead of speaking through Durkon and Loki’s priest. It’s sort of confusing (to me, anyway) but not in any way that matters – clearly Davlin plans to take a poll from a bunch of kings and Durkon plans to Dominate those kings. Who glowed when isn’t really important. \*It could be that they’re actual deity size and just way larger than mortals whereas Davlin stayed dwarf-sized post deification. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2275 "2015-12-20T14:09:28Z")
I think It’s Dvalin not Davlin, since that it the traditional name for the chief of the Dwarves. (Actually usually Dvalinn I thought) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2276 "2015-12-20T16:10:20Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > I think It’s Dvalin not Davlin, since that it the traditional name for the chief of the Dwarves. (Actually usually Dvalinn I thought) Re-reading the comic, it appears to be Dvalin when he’s all glowy, and Davlin when he’s not. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2277 "2015-12-20T18:55:29Z")
It’s Dvalin everywhere except when the High Priestess of Thor addresses him, where it’s Davlin. Presumably, that’s just a typo. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2278 "2015-12-20T22:01:17Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > All those guys created giant translucent proxy images\* I’m not seeing that. As far as I can see, only Heimdall, Loki and Hel had giant images. For all the others, their high priest glowed, his eyes turned yellow, and they spoke their god’s words. No proxy image. Just the same as Dvalin’s priest. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2279 "2015-12-23T18:29:26Z")
One convention I’ve noticed in OotS is that whenever a character closes his eyes and delivers a speech – such as Davlin in panel 5 – it means, “My intentions are noble, but you’re probably not going to like what I’m about to say.” ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2280 "2015-12-23T18:38:11Z")
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