# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2661 "2016-05-16T17:26:20Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> So, some Arctic bugbears? Frostblood Orcs? something else?

[Arctic Goblins](http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/UA:Arctic_Goblins) most likely. Apparently brown is the new orange.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2662 "2016-05-16T21:00:37Z")

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> [@Uniqueorn](#):
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> dun dun DUNNNN!

It’s just a new umbrella. Nothing to get that excited about.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2663 "2016-05-16T23:17:46Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> It’s just a new umbrella. Nothing to get that excited about.

So you think things are just ducky with the new umbrella? Hello Kitty is not going to like this…

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2664 "2016-05-16T23:26:18Z")

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I don’t understand the title.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2665 "2016-05-17T00:04:51Z")

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Yeah, I don’t really get it, either. It would make more sense if we had a panel of Oona reporting to Redcloak that the paladins fell through the ice and perished in the water. Which she’s presumably about to do, but hasn’t yet.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2666 "2016-05-17T00:36:12Z")

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I think It refers to Lien’s theory that the new assailant has to be unrelated to Xykon so that the number of people trying to kill them will be increased, Kind of a D&D law of entropy I guess. 😉

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2667 "2016-05-17T01:36:39Z")

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And I guess the boob curve people rule this day

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2668 "2016-05-17T02:18:26Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> I think It refers to Lien’s theory that the new assailant has to be unrelated to Xykon so that the number of people trying to kill them will be increased, Kind of a D&D law of entropy I guess. 😉

I agree its primary reference is to Lien’s statement. But it’s also a reference to the attack itself, which was based on sound but ended up not killing its targets.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2669 "2016-05-17T03:04:21Z")

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I was assuming that the secondary punning meaning was obvious, and that it was just the first meaning which was in doubt. And I guess it could also refer to Lien’s conclusion, but (at least for us real-time readers), it’s far enough past the setup to make the line fall flat.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2670 "2016-05-17T12:29:34Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> I don’t understand the title.

It’s a callback to the title of 3 comics ago, where the paladins were saying the attacker has no relationship to their current quest. That was called “_Sound Reasoning_”.

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**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2671 "2016-05-20T16:24:29Z")

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[1037 - Beast Practices](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1037.html) is online.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2672 "2016-05-20T16:42:37Z")

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Hmm…so the MITD isn’t full-size yet…

_nods_

_gets treat_

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2673 "2016-05-20T17:20:04Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I was assuming that the secondary punning meaning was obvious, and that it was just the first meaning which was in doubt. And I guess it could also refer to Lien’s conclusion, but (at least for us real-time readers), it’s far enough past the setup to make the line fall flat.

I just thought the setup was that everyone thought it was one creature when it was really another, once it took off the headdress.

And, yeah, it’s interesting to finally get some info on the MITD. Not only is it small, but it’s obviously so–so it at least looks like something that people have seen be bigger. It also seems to be some sort of beast.

The only other things I think we know is that it is horribly ugly–at least, by (green) goblin standards–enough so to be an attraction. And that it’s really powerful, but would not have been powerful enough to beat the Order after they defeated Xykon the first time.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2674 "2016-05-20T17:50:53Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And that it’s really powerful, but would not have been powerful enough to beat the Order after they defeated Xykon the first time.

No, they didn’t say that. [Here’s the relevant strip](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0117.html). They seem to agree that the MITD could kill the Order but there would be no point to doing so at that time.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2675 "2016-05-20T20:26:44Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The only other things I think we know is that it is horribly ugly–at least, by (green) goblin standards–enough so to be an attraction.

But not so ugly so as to cause the goblin to go mad from the reveal. Interesting.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2676 "2016-05-21T00:03:22Z")

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Og help me, but I actually LIKE Oona!

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2677 "2016-05-21T00:22:58Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Og help me, but I actually LIKE Oona!

I like the wolf better.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2678 "2016-05-21T00:28:55Z")

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\<nods\>

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2679 "2016-05-21T00:36:53Z")

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\<gives treat\>

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/2680 "2016-05-21T00:53:28Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I like the wolf better.

“Greyview”… tee-hee.

I don’t know if that’s a reference to (the belief that) dogs are colorblind but it amuses me to assume that it is.

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