# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 153
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3041 "2016-08-31T21:14:29Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > [664 Down to Earth - Giant in the Playground Games](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0664.html) > > Panel 2 Remind me why Dad the that report away? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3042 "2016-08-31T21:25:50Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Remind me why Dad the that report away? Because he’s single-minded. His only goal if for Xykon to be defeated and he’s certain Roy can’t do it. So all Eugene is doing is passing the time while waiting for Roy to die and get out of the way so Julia can do the job. He only sees Roy as an obstacle getting in his way. Passing information on to Roy won’t help Eugene, so he sees no reason to do it. As we saw in this strip (and in numerous others) Roy has a share of his father’s traits. He is too certain of his own beliefs. But Roy’s certainty is mitigated by concern for other people (a trait he presumably gets from his mother). ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3043 "2016-09-07T21:58:04Z")
[1051: Path of Most Resistance](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1051.html) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3044 "2016-09-07T22:03:31Z")
V’s last line is great. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3045 "2016-09-07T22:09:46Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > V’s last line is great. It is, but Haley’s is the one that made me giggle the most. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3046 "2016-09-07T22:10:29Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Remind me why Dad [threw] that report away? Basically because he approved of what V did, and would have done the same given the choice (minus the familicide). So he didn’t want V getting in trouble with Roy nor for it to distract Roy from the mission. It’s both professional courtesy for another wizard and what **Little Nemo** said. He thinks it would only get in the way. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3047 "2016-09-07T22:12:03Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > V’s last line is great. It’s also shows so much character growth! Before “magic is great” was all that V cared about. It was all about power. ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3048 "2016-09-08T07:14:25Z")
Off-topic, but I just got “Uncivil Servant” and if you like Belkar’s shenanigans, it is pretty hilarious! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3049 "2016-09-08T09:07:10Z")
> [@Uniqueorn](#): > > Off-topic, but I just got “Uncivil Servant” and if you like Belkar’s shenanigans, it is pretty hilarious! Glad you mentioned that. Turns out, I chose to view rather than save my copy, meaning it was in my Temp folder, ready to be deleted at any time! ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3050 "2016-09-08T23:37:53Z")
When “Spoiler Alert” starring Therkla comes out to the general public, you should get that too. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3051 "2016-09-09T01:59:16Z")
Yeah, “Uncivil Servant” was good for a few chuckles, but “Spoiler Alert” was genuinely great. ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3052 "2016-09-15T13:40:34Z")
**[1052: Fired Giants](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1052.html)** ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3053 "2016-09-15T14:08:19Z")
Haley’s good enough to 1-shot 4 frost giants in one round? OK, granted, they’d already been lightly toasted and she’s invisible but still, that’s impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3054 "2016-09-15T14:10:53Z")
The fireball probably did extra damage to them. They’d be vulnerable to it. And Haley’s using her proficient weapon AND backstabbing. That’s some serious damn multipliers. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3055 "2016-09-15T14:20:03Z")
Assuming no metamagic, the fireball would be doing 10d6 damage. Frost giants, being cold creatures, would take half again that much. And Haley’s shots are each dealing 1d8 from the pointy stick, +5 from the magical enhancement on the bow, and 8d6 from it being a Sneak Attack. So we’re looking at a total damage of 23d6+1d8+5, or an average of 90 points. Although… [frost giants](http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/giant.htm#frostGiant) have an average of 133 HP. Even with lucky rolls, that does stretch the bounds of plausibility. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3056 "2016-09-15T14:30:57Z")
I wasn’t doubting that it was plausible, BTW, I was just expressing admiration. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3057 "2016-09-15T15:30:06Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Assuming no metamagic, the fireball would be doing 10d6 damage. Frost giants, being cold creatures, would take half again that much. And Haley’s shots are each dealing 1d8 from the pointy stick, +5 from the magical enhancement on the bow, and 8d6 from it being a Sneak Attack. So we’re looking at a total damage of 23d6+1d8+5, or an average of 90 points. > > Although… [frost giants](http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/giant.htm#frostGiant) have an average of 133 HP. Even with lucky rolls, that does stretch the bounds of plausibility. I’m not sure it does. Maximising the Fireball gives 60 HP base for the Fireball which becomes 90 HP and Haley’s damage is 1d8 +5 +5 + 8d6 or a max of 66 HP (72 if Haley is 17th level) which still isn’t enough. Off to the [Class & Level Geekery](http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?485983-Class-and-Level-Geekery-XIV-We-are-the-Geek-Pantheon) thread. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3058 "2016-09-15T15:35:59Z")
Maybe its the second fireball V cast. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3059 "2016-09-15T15:39:52Z")
Eh, not going to sweat such things. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3060 "2016-09-15T15:46:47Z")
Blech, spot the simple addition error in my post above! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=152) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=154)