# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 168
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3342 "2017-04-10T19:03:28Z")
> [@yellowjacketcoder](#): > > I love how unarmed Roy, being a high level fighter, can still punch out an ice troll that’s 4 times his height. > > Of course, that enemy is going to be back next round and extra pissed off, but it was still a cool scene. > > Poor Roy still got upstaged by the upside down swashbuckler, tho. Doesn’t Roy have a Belt of Giant’s Strength? Also: Boo-yah! Elan, stepping up! ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3343 "2017-04-10T20:34:25Z")
I posted the following back in January, when [1062](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1062.html) was the most recent strip. > [@dtilque](#): > > Roy’s going to be busy with the two giants for a while. Elan is going to swing down on a convenient rope[sup]1[/sup] and somehow fix things. Or at least try to fix them. Who knows how it’ll end up in his hands. Well, I was right, except for where the swoop ended up. I was thinking it would be to the poop deck. > [@](#): > > [sup]1[/sup] It’s a Dashing Swordsman’s ship. There’s probably convenient swinging ropes (i.e attached to the ship at only one end) in various places all over it. Well, I guess he had to _make_ a convenient rope. But that’s what Dashing Swordsmen can do, it’s one of their feats, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3344 "2017-04-11T06:14:43Z")
> [@yellowjacketcoder](#): > > I love how unarmed Roy, being a high level fighter, can still punch out an ice troll Frost Giant. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3345 "2017-04-11T06:49:09Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Elan continues his streak of surprising effectiveness. Me likey! I like the way that Elan didn’t try to fight the Frost Giant himself. The old Elan would have taken the most obvious course of action and jumped into the middle of the fight. The new Elan figured out that he would contribute more by healing Roy and getting him back into the fight. I think this is an ongoing development from Elan’s confrontation with his father; Elan’s being an effective support rather than an ineffective protagonist. Tarquin tried use his narrative powers to twist the story to his own ends; he placed himself above the story. Elan’s using his narrative powers to help the story move towards the proper ending even though it means he won’t be the hero of the story. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3346 "2017-04-11T07:42:29Z")
Isn’t that what he’s always done? Leave the actual fighting to the fighters, and use bard magic to boost them. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3347 "2017-04-11T09:47:14Z")
His new technique is certainly more effective than just singing “Fight, fight, fight the frost giant…” ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3348 "2017-05-09T11:25:18Z")
Worrisome. Not only has it been almost a month now since the last installment, clicking on their forum over there gives me an error: “You have reached an invalid page at Giant In the Playground. Please check your url or use the links at the left to browse the site.” Anyone know what is going on? Is this the end of the strip? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3349 "2017-05-09T11:45:17Z")
It wouldn’t be the first time a forum crashed. I visited one of their D&D sub-forums yesterday, and it was working fine. Give it some time. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3350 "2017-05-09T11:46:01Z")
He has undisclosed medical problems too. ---
**Author:** ![DCTrekkie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dctrekkie/32/18862_2.png) [@DCTrekkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCTrekkie)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3351 "2017-05-09T11:48:07Z")
He was posting on twitter a week ago. Looks like he’s been busy trying to catch up on Kickstarter rewards. Not sure why the forums gone though, hopefully just a website glitch. [Quote=Rich (on Twitter)] Hey. So obviously I’ve been out of touch for a bit. Back now, trying to get on top of things that slid. I need to finish off O-Chul story for the Kickstarter backers, which I need a few more days…this week? Maybe?..and then a regular comic. Once O-Chul’s done I’ll be able to focus on the main strip again for a bit. Thanks to everyone who’s sent their support during all of this. [/Quote] > > > > ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3352 "2017-05-09T12:02:44Z")
The sycophants at GitP make me sick. The truth of the matter is that Burlew took a $1 million payout with the implication it would get him to do some serious work on the comic, (with the backer rewards being just gravy), and has spent the last 5 years being a lazy hack, (minus the few months or so when he hurt his thumb). ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3353 "2017-05-09T12:14:28Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > The sycophants at GitP make me sick. The truth of the matter is that Burlew took a $1 million payout with the implication it would get him to do some serious work on the comic, (with the backer rewards being just gravy), and has spent the last 5 years being a lazy hack, (minus the few months or so when he hurt his thumb). Damn straight. If I were you, I’d refuse to read his webcomic anymore. Also, what’s up with that George R. R. Martin guy? ---
**Author:** ![Aghris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@Aghris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aghris)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3354 "2017-05-09T12:16:21Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > The sycophants at GitP make me sick. The truth of the matter is that Burlew took a $1 million payout with the implication it would get him to do some serious work on the comic, (with the backer rewards being just gravy), and has spent the last 5 years being a lazy hack, (minus the few months or so when he hurt his thumb). Actually, the Kickstarter was intended to cover the costs of reprinting one of the comic collection books. When it reached past the initial 20k (I think) that was needed, he pledged to reprint all the other comics and use a big chunk to modernize the website and forum servers. I don’t think he ever mentioned that he would use the money to cover his living expenses so he could work on the comic full-time (I could be wrong though). I do think he promised more than he could deliver in his enthusiasm of his unimaginable Kickstarter success, but I also think he works hard to deliver as much as he can. It sucks that the regular comic suffers from this, but I think it is fair to expect him to deliver on the things he’s been paid for, than on a free wen comic. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3355 "2017-05-09T12:29:59Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Damn straight. If I were you, I’d refuse to read his webcomic anymore. That’s something of a moot point at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3356 "2017-05-09T18:53:48Z")
Notification now says that forums will be back up in a few days. Was unexpected but maybe they had a nasty crash or machine failure. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3357 "2017-05-09T19:48:22Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > The sycophants at GitP make me sick. The truth of the matter is that Burlew took a $1 million payout with the implication it would get him to do some serious work on the comic, (with the backer rewards being just gravy), and has spent the last 5 years being a lazy hack, (minus the few months or so when he hurt his thumb). You should ask for the money you pay to read the comic every month back. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3358 "2017-05-09T20:07:59Z")
I can’t complain about the kickstarter. I paid the price of three books (a little less, actually), and got three books. Plus a magnet, a pad of notepaper, some digital downloads, and a couple other knickknacks. Nobody’s ripped me off. Has he ripped you off? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3359 "2017-05-09T20:34:53Z")
Hey, when I pledged to Burlew’s Kickstarter campaign it was based on the implied promise that he would publish and post a free webcomic. So you can imagine my disappointment with the fact that he’s been publishing and posting a free webcomic since he got my money. ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3360 "2017-05-09T21:23:12Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I can’t complain about the kickstarter. I paid the price of three books (a little less, actually), and got three books. Plus a magnet, a pad of notepaper, some digital downloads, and a couple other knickknacks. Nobody’s ripped me off. Has he ripped you off? I feel pretty much the same way, but he did post an update back in February that he would update again on April 24, which he has blown pretty terribly. Even if he just posted “I’m working real hard to get the O-Chul PDF done and I’ll follow up again in 2 weeks if I’m not done” would have been nice. But I feel like I already got my money’s worth, even if I’d prefer some better communication. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3361 "2017-05-10T01:19:43Z")
Will you guys stop with the idea that you can’t be upset at a producer because they release their content for free? It’s a dumb argument. I too don’t like the schedule. I get why webcomic authors print books, as it gets them more money. But, if it takes away from timely comics, I’d prefer them not to do it. No other webcomic I read is as bad as this one. The story doesn’t suffer, and the art is often better. For me, he’s made exactly $2 off of me, both for the extra comics he made. He might have made $12 if he’d not canceled the digital version of the calendars when I needed them. I definitely put him at the bottom of the list of supporting in any other way, though. Granted, I’ve been on record of wishing that complaints about the creator be separate from comic threads, but whatchagonnado? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=167) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=169)