# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 197
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3922 "2017-11-15T14:47:36Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Saoirse Ronan seems too young/cute looking for Haley to me. That pic is from a while ago. She’s 23, Haley’s 24. And while I think Ronan’s good-looking, I wouldn’t call her “cute”. > [@](#): > > And I want Elan to look like a total goof. a) Elan’s also supposed to be good-looking and charismatic. No, make that \*superhumanly \*charismatic (CHA 22 with his Belt.). That’s no way a _total_ goof. b) Have you \*seen \*the Ghostbusters reboot? Hemsworth can play goofy [just fine](http://cdn1.alloy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/chris.gif). ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3923 "2017-11-15T15:07:04Z")
Both Haley and Elan are good looking. Elan is exceptionally good looking (“Let’s see what 18 Charisma looks like under the hood”) but Haley is no slouch. Plus, Hollywood standards dictate that the romantically linked couple be young and conventionally attractive. Hemsworth strikes me as a bit old and physically imposing to pass as Elan. Need someone in his 20s and with more of a “Dashing Swordsman” physique. After all, the whole point of Dashing Swordsman is that Elan doesn’t have to use his (mediocre) strength stat but can use Charisma instead as a damage modifier. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3924 "2017-11-15T15:09:06Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > The best Haley I can think of right now is Uma Thurman. Nah. [Rose Leslie](https://hdwallsource.com/rose-leslie-desktop-wallpaper-57688.html), [Ygritte](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ygritte) on _Game of Thrones_. She’s even a natural red-head. That’s a _baby_? I was trying to figure out what sect has a doll for a holy symbol. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3925 "2017-11-15T15:24:20Z")
Maybe Grant Gustin as Elan? He’s funny, he’s charming, he’s skinny and he can even sing. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3926 "2017-11-15T15:44:34Z")
Good one, yes, he’d make a perfect Elan. He can do goofy, too. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3927 "2017-11-15T17:38:04Z")
Belkar? Well, there’s always Peter Dinklage (and definitely not [Warwick Davis](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0335.html)). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3928 "2017-11-15T17:55:22Z")
I think that they’d be better off using camera tricks, like in _Lord of the Rings_, for Belkar and Durkon than to use actual short actors, especially since there are some scenes where you’d need a heck of a lot of short characters. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3929 "2017-11-15T17:57:12Z")
Just do Belkar in 100% CGI. What could possibly go wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3930 "2017-11-15T18:31:48Z")
He’s a bit down the cast list in terms of screen time, but it just came to me that Tarquin \*has \*to be played by John Barrowman. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3931 "2017-11-15T18:37:50Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Just do Belkar in 100% CGI. What could possibly go wrong? Just record a few clips of [“generic comment questioning your parentage” and “mumbled statement disparaging your masculinity”](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0295.html) and you’re good to go! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3932 "2017-11-16T09:25:55Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Just do Belkar in 100% CGI. What could possibly go wrong? Better idea: Andy Serkis plays everybody. EVERYBODY. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3933 "2017-11-16T12:26:56Z")
I see Belkar being played by a CG-reduced Vin Diesel, myself. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3934 "2017-11-16T13:57:55Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Maybe Grant Gustin as Elan? Impossible. We already cast him as Nale. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3935 "2017-11-16T14:01:04Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Impossible. We already cast him as Nale. No, _Earth-2_ Grant Gustin… ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3936 "2017-11-16T14:07:11Z")
You could do a fairly good job with the\* Brooklyn 99\* cast: Roy: Terry Crews as noted Elan: Andy Samberg (not good looking enough, but brings the goofy to make it workable) Haley: Melissa Fumero - easily good looking enough and has chemistry with Elan/Andy Belkar: Joe Lo Truglio (already little). Maybe Durkon Roy’s Dad: Andre Braugher (although not enough screen time) Durkon: Joel McKinnon/Scully - he’s got that dwarf look to him, but a lot of movie magic to make him short enough V: no one is ambiguous enough, although maybe Lo Truglio (but then we don’t have a Belkar, and I’ve only seen him do comedic roles) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3937 "2017-11-16T14:28:38Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > That pic is from a while ago. She’s 23, Haley’s 24. And while I think Ronan’s good-looking, I wouldn’t call her “cute”.a) Elan’s also supposed to be good-looking and charismatic. No, make that \*superhumanly \*charismatic (CHA 22 with his Belt.). That’s no way a _total_ goof. > b) Have you \*seen \*the Ghostbusters reboot? Hemsworth can play goofy [just fine](http://cdn1.alloy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/chris.gif). I looked her up to get more pictures of her. She has a cute round face, which makes her look younger than she is. I wouldn’t be surprised if she got cast to play teenagers. I just don’t see her at all as Haley. Haley should be a wise cracking actress who looks like she’s grown up on the street. Also, being a natural red head would look better. As for Elan, his stats don’t seem to line up with how he is portrayed in the story. He isn’t someone who everyone likes, but someone everyone finds annoying and has to get past that to see his heart of gold. He may be reasonably good looking, but he’s not particularly strong, requiring a punning class to be able to inflict damage. And he’s definitely not good looking enough that most people ignore how annoying he is. Unfortunately, while I have a picture in my head, I’m not up enough on actors to think of anyone who actually looks like my picture. The best I can do is to say he’d be kinda skinny, has a quite young look (which is why Nale has a beard), is kinda pretty in a slightly effeminate way, has a bit of a whiny voice (but not as Nale), and just always has this comic energy about him (that morphs into comic villainy straight man with Nale). ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3938 "2017-11-16T14:54:04Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Elan: Andy Samberg (not good looking enough, but brings the goofy to make it workable) Actually you have inspired a much better option: **Taylor Lautner**. Lautner (he of \*Twilight \*werewolf fame) took over from Samberg as the romantic lead of the British comedy \*Cuckoo \*and does goofy, clueless, physical comedy \*\*really \*\*well. Dye his hair and he’d be perfect. The other Brooklyn 99 cast suggestions are good though - I could totally see Lo Truglio as Belkar. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3939 "2017-11-16T15:10:02Z")
Tyler Lautner?! As in Tyler Lautner who was Jacob in the Twilight movies? He can act?! ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3940 "2017-11-16T15:27:51Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I looked her up to get more pictures of her. She has a cute round face, which makes her look younger than she is. I wouldn’t be surprised if she got cast to play teenagers. I just don’t see her at all as Haley. Haley should be a wise cracking actress who looks like she’s grown up on the street. Also, being a natural red head would look better. I was just posting a picture of a young actress who shoots a bow. I in fact think **Desert Dog** ’s suggestion of Rose Leslie is a great choice. Or Karen Gillan would work, too. > [@](#): > > As for Elan, his stats don’t seem to line up with how he is portrayed in the story. He isn’t someone who everyone likes, but someone everyone finds annoying Actually, the people who find him annoying are his teammates who suffer from his naivete. He’s been shown to be very attractive to the ladies, sometimes almost instantly, like with Therkla or Samantha. He’s been portrayed as increasingly competent - in fact, a large part of the overall arc is Elan’s development. And growth is a good look on anyone. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/3941 "2017-11-16T15:32:00Z")
For Nale, I just picture Orlando Bloom’s character in Pirates, minus the competence in everything but swordplay. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=196) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=198)