# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 222
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4422 "2018-07-20T14:06:16Z")
Potentially, if the vamps harm (or threaten to harm) Mr. Scruffy there’s a strong chance Belkar could shake off the Domination and kick some vampire butt. Remember what happened to the desert slavers when they tried it? Mind you, it might not end well for him - his prophesied demise is long overdue by this point. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4423 "2018-07-20T14:07:24Z")
Maybe the vamps will walk out, and some random cleric will walk in and heal a couple of stickies. I’m still waiting for bloodfeast to show up. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4424 "2018-07-20T15:25:29Z")
Belkar shaking off the Domination won’t help much, with him knocked cold. But let’s say that the Five Friends are all still miners. What would happen if the floor suddenly collapsed under Not-Durkon? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4425 "2018-07-20T16:35:33Z")
Maybe those three Directors can suck V down and get him back on his feet. They seem to have a vested interest in the world not ending just yet. ---
**Author:** ![satogata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@satogata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/satogata)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4426 "2018-07-20T18:39:57Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > …an interesting idea that this revelation would cause Greg to switch sides and start helping out the Order. I get this feeling too. Greg’s curiosity is piqued, and he is deep enough in the memory not to react to the ‘We WON!’ exclamation in the last panel. The setup is that the dead miners were ‘probably all bound for Hel’ before they were raised, so there is possible exposition coming that puts Hel in a bad light. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4427 "2018-07-20T18:47:46Z")
I have a feeling it’s going to turn out that Durkon’s dad didn’t actually die in battle, like we saw in the crayon flashback, and is in Hel’s realm. But I can’t see how that would make a difference to Greg, or matter at all in the current situation. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4428 "2018-07-20T20:40:55Z")
Yeah, I can’t see Greg being upset that Hel is hellish - he is apparently a creation of Hel if I remember correctly, so unless it turns out that Hel’s realm is actually milk and cookies all the time, I doubt that any revelation about conditions there would turn him against his mistress. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4429 "2018-07-20T20:50:23Z")
Food for thought: these five dwarves have first-hand experience of Hel. I have no idea how that could possibly be relevant, but I have no idea how any of this is relevant. Just throwing this out there in case it does become a plot point. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4430 "2018-07-20T21:29:21Z")
Why does it make a difference that the remaining 32 miners had family to claim their bodies? Didn’t _they_ go to Hel as well? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4431 "2018-07-20T21:34:50Z")
Something I noticed, which I’m sure is just a coincidence: Two of my favorite webcomics released strips today based on familial ties stronger than blood based on being brought back from the dead. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4432 "2018-07-20T21:38:14Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Why does it make a difference that the remaining 32 miners had family to claim their bodies? Didn’t _they_ go to Hel as well? I’m assuming the thought is their families may have the money to pay for a raising, but these 5 are guaranteed to go to Hel. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4433 "2018-07-20T21:47:23Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Something I noticed, which I’m sure is just a coincidence: Two of my favorite webcomics released strips today based on familial ties stronger than blood based on being brought back from the dead. Yes, that was a strange Questionable Content strip. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4434 "2018-07-21T00:02:12Z")
OK, I don’t follow Questionable Content. Was it actually done there, too, or is that just a whoosh? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4435 "2018-07-21T00:10:11Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > OK, I don’t follow Questionable Content. Was it actually done there, too, or is that just a whoosh? It was a whoosh. Which webcomic are you following that has a similar plot development? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4436 "2018-07-21T00:47:48Z")
[Schlock Mercenary](https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2018-07-18) (linked to a few days ago for context: The short lady is the top religious leader of the four-armed characters’ species, and the crowds in the background are victims of a mining accident being revived by a relief effort led by the taller four-armed character). ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4437 "2018-07-23T05:22:51Z")
I’ve spent the last few hours going back through the current book, and I found something else about the Five Miners that’s nice: [They feel strongly](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1089.html) that Sigdi shouldn’t have to pay them back for anything. “My honor will be deeply insulted if you try to give me money for [the dress] later.” ---
**Author:** ![ebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@ebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ebb)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4438 "2018-07-23T15:23:26Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Belkar shaking off the Domination won’t help much, with him knocked cold. > > But let’s say that the Five Friends are all still miners. What would happen if the floor suddenly collapsed under Not-Durkon? I’m not sure if the floor collapsing would have a tremendous effect. But if the ceiling collapsed, opening a shaft up to the surface… Is it daylight yet? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4439 "2018-07-23T17:55:23Z")
Mine! [1129.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1129.html) ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4440 "2018-07-23T18:00:05Z")
Nice plot development, but Burlew still has to deal with the “People don’t change instantly” POV expressed by Belkar. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4441 "2018-07-23T18:11:00Z")
Just a theory. But Durkula has made a point that he knows everything about Durkon. Maybe this is Durkon’s way of telling Durkula that he doesn’t; that Durkon has memories that he’s buried so deeply Durkula wasn’t even aware they existed and didn’t look for them. This has been foreshadowed. Durkon “wrote” the introduction to one of the books. In his introduction he revealed that he’s not naturally dutiful. He just behaves dutifully so he can be assured of going to Valhalla when he dies - where he says he plans on doing all of the partying he has denied himself in life. That said, even if this is true I don’t see how revealing it gives Durkon any advantage over Durkula. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=221) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=223)