# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/461 "2014-08-28T01:32:24Z")

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It’s also [shinier than leather](http://www.joann.com/pleather/xprd757783.html) and comes in much brighter colors. So the red would show at a greater distance. Like a theater prop that only looks decent from the audience.

A lot of pleather will drape (fall into folds) more like cloth. Between that, the shine, and the bright, bright colors, it practically screams synthetic. Even the kind that’s trying to look like actual leather looks very much like it’s something trying to look like leather.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/462 "2014-08-30T02:44:45Z")

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[New one.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0961.html)

Nope, don’t like it.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/463 "2014-08-30T04:59:39Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> [New one.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0961.html)
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> Nope, don’t like it.

Knew one _“nope, don’t”_. **Like it!**

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/464 "2014-08-30T05:24:02Z")

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Burlew seems to be going out of his way to introduce the crew members and give us names and backstories. I suspect something on the horizon.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/465 "2014-08-30T05:47:15Z")

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I like the new art, but the plot is like 10% speed vs before. And it was damned slow before.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/466 "2014-08-30T13:59:45Z")

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> Burlew seems to be going out of his way to introduce the crew members and give us names and backstories. I suspect something on the horizon.

Except that “Andi”, introduced here, appears to be the same person as “Sally”, introduced several strips ago.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/467 "2014-08-30T15:24:06Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Except that “Andi”, introduced here, appears to be the same person as “Sally”, introduced several strips ago.

I don’t think so. She looks similar and I doubt that’s a coincidence, but Sally wore different clothing and was working on the engine. Andi is making repairs to the hull. They’re probably sisters or something.

Man though, that was a stinker of a puchline, probably the worst one of the enire strip, (certainly the worst I can recall at the moment).

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/468 "2014-08-30T15:26:17Z")

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Good to see I’m not the only one who thought it was lame, lame, lame.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/469 "2014-08-30T16:23:38Z")

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Yeah, that was pretty bad. The prayer doesn’t really even make sense.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/470 "2014-08-30T20:31:45Z")

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Sally wore different clothing when she was out on deck in inclement weather. What we can see of her clothes underneath the coat, though, appears to match what Andi is wearing. And identical twin sisters who both work in maintenance on the same airship? That sort of thing just doesn’t happen unless your name is an anagram of Aeln.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/471 "2014-08-30T21:22:39Z")

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That was strained even by OOTS wackiness standards.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/472 "2014-08-30T22:48:23Z")

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Sheesh gang, give the guy a break. Or consider the hit rate of your typical strip or editorial comic. (I know, I know: people are just making observations. Me too. I’m just saying that Burlew is permitted a few clunkers.)

Plot wise, we know that Durkula is covering his tracks. And Roy is a little worried, though he doesn’t see anything actionable. And that the Mechane minions have personalities as well. Eh.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/473 "2014-08-31T01:01:52Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Or consider the hit rate of your typical strip or editorial comic.

More than once per month, I’d hope.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/474 "2014-08-31T15:56:04Z")

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Looking back at the [strip](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0951.html) where Sally was mentioned, I see there were two people holding the rope. So apparently Sally is the crew member on the right and Andi is the one on the left. Sally was sent to work on the engines while Andi is repairing the hull.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/475 "2014-08-31T16:15:23Z")

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OK, so either[ul]  
[li]Rich named her Sally in the earlier strip, forgot he had done so, and changed his mind about what her name is in the meantime.[/li][li]Sally is the man, and the discussion with not-Sally in the next strip is misdirection[/li][li]Sally is lying to Roy about being called Andromeda and for some reason Roy doesn’t remember she was identified as Sally.[/li][li]Her name is Andromeda, but Bandana has an in-joke reason for calling her Sally[/li][li]She is not the same person.[/li][/ul]

Any other possibilities?

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**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/476 "2014-08-31T19:13:24Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> I like the new art, but the plot is like 10% speed vs before. And it was damned slow before.

Most of the books tend to start off slowly. The last one started ISTR with some ‘really exciting’ shopping.

The problem is that the new art seems to be slowing production down. It used to be once a week. Now it’s around 2 weeks.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/477 "2014-08-31T20:07:32Z")

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> [@blue\_infinity](#):
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> The problem is that the new art seems to be slowing production down. It used to be once a week. Now it’s around 2 weeks.

IIRC Rich also has a backlog of Kickstarter stuff to work through.

As for the naming of the NPCs, wasn’t one of the Kickstarter options to have an appearance in the comic?

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/478 "2014-08-31T20:44:42Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> That was strained even by OOTS wackiness standards.

Yeah, but it shows that Roy isn’t a completely trusting doofus. At least he _tries_ to trust but verify, even if he’s pretty bad at it.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/479 "2014-09-01T03:25:21Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> Yeah, but it shows that Roy isn’t a completely trusting doofus. At least he _tries_ to trust but verify, even if he’s pretty bad at it.

But it’s another sign that Roy has grown. He used to never consider the possibility he might be wrong. He’s now learned to at least listen to other people - even Belkar - and consider what they’re saying.

Ironically, the fact that Roy is showing some suspicions about Durkon is a sign he’s become more willing to trust other people.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2014, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/480 "2014-09-01T11:28:25Z")

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[quote=“Mr\_Shine, post:475, topic:682755”]

[ul]  
[li]Rich named her Sally in the earlier strip, forgot he had done so, and changed his mind about what her name is in the meantime.[/ul][/li][/QUOTE]

Strip #951 now says “Andi”

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