# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
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Afterthought… maybe it isn’t coincidence. Maybe the rifts actually sought out the Scribbles, and appeared near their homes. There’s a large backstory here that we haven’t heard yet.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4803 "2018-08-16T04:33:57Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I liked that one of those threads was titled “Everything you ever wanted to know but were afraid Tarrasque”.

That was my suggestion, BTW. Glad you liked it.  
(eta - whoa, 12,000 posts)

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4804 "2018-08-16T05:27:21Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Afterthought… maybe it isn’t coincidence. Maybe the rifts actually sought out the Scribbles, and appeared near their homes. There’s a large backstory here that we haven’t heard yet.

Soon’s and Lirian’s Gates, maybe. But Girard’s Gate was out in the desert, Dorukon’s Gate was way up in the hills (possibly underground) and Kraagor’s Gate is near the North Pole. I suppose it’s possible that Girard nor Dorukon lived near those rifts before they built their structures around the gates, but no one lives near the North Pole.[sup]1[/sup] Also, if this were the case, there’d be a sixth rift in the Shire for Serini.

[sup]1[/sup] Fairly sure Santa is _not_ a D&D monster…

ETA: forgot about Oonga and her tribe. I guess I’m wrong about no one living near the pole.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
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> [@dtilque](#):
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> [sup]1[/sup] Fairly sure Santa is _not_ a D&D monster…

[Wanna bet](https://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/Santa.pdf)?

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4806 "2018-08-16T09:37:13Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Seconded. Haven’t seen you around in Erf lately. You still following?

Oh yeah, the whole StupidWorld drama had me keeping my fingers crossed for Rob and Linda, and the latest turn of events has me both gobsmacked and happy. I’m just along for the ride as far as the story goes; the forum discussions got a little too technical for me. But I’m still checking in on Tuesdays and Fridays to see if anything’s up.

(And I still think that mystery Carny was the Finn.)

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4807 "2018-08-16T09:41:50Z")

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> [@Strassia](#):
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> He isn’t speaking directly to Thor in that strip. Just putting in his standard orders via celestial prayer support as all clerics do.

Hairsplitting. The assistant was not relaying messages between Thor and Durkon, telling each what the other said. Durkon was speaking directly to Thor. Though admittedly not face-to-face, which up until the current strip was indeed the sole honor of the hobgoblin leader of Azure City.

Also, how in the hell do you use MultiQuote?!

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4808 "2018-08-16T10:04:09Z")

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> [@Olentzero](#):
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> Also, how in the hell do you use MultiQuote?!

Click the “MultiQuote” button for each post you want to include (in the order you want to include them) - they should highlight to show they have been selected - and then click the main Reply button at the bottom of the page. All the selected posts should appear.

Or pray to Clippy, demigod in charge of Writing Things on Your Computer.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4809 "2018-08-16T13:20:21Z")

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I don’t think it’s coincidence that Soon’s rift was in Azure City, either. Consider: We _know_ that narrative causality is a thing in Stickworld. All the more so for the Snarl, which is literally made out of story threads. And so the Rifts appeared in five different sorts of terrain type, because that’s what makes for a more dramatic story. If you want the five most common terrain types for adventures, it’s hard to beat forest, mountains, city, desert, and tundra (and the fact that city isn’t a natural terrain type is completely irrelevant).

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
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> [@Chronos](#):
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> If you want the five most common terrain types for adventures, it’s hard to beat forest, mountains, city, desert, and tundra (and the fact that city isn’t a natural terrain type is completely irrelevant).

Nonsense. The five most common terrain types for adventurers are abandoned mines, abandoned sewers, abandoned crypts, abandoned castles and taverns. 😛

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**Author:** ![kivvik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/cdc98d/32.png) [@kivvik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kivvik)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4811 "2018-08-16T16:35:40Z")

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> [@Olentzero](#):
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> Hairsplitting. The assistant was not relaying messages between Thor and Durkon, telling each what the other said. Durkon was speaking directly to Thor. Though admittedly not face-to-face, which up until the current strip was indeed the sole honor of the hobgoblin leader of Azure City.
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> Also, how in the hell do you use MultiQuote?!

I believe Redcloak would not appreciate being mistaken for a Hobgoblin, being rather proud of his Goblin heritage. Nor do I recall his Lieutenant being of the orange variety.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4812 "2018-08-16T17:00:58Z")

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He means Jirix, who has been left in charge of the city after Redcloak departed.

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4813 "2018-08-16T21:25:40Z")

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[1135](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1135.html)

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Why does that penultimate panel remind me of [“Luckily, Thor understands these things”](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0501.html)?

Oh, and when he shrinks down and simplifies, his artwork literally simplifies.

A bit annoying, though, that the strip after “Seriously, dude, we need to talk” doesn’t include The Talk.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4815 "2018-08-16T21:54:31Z")

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The best thing to ever happen to Minrah was dying.

Sure, not that sad in context, but still… aw!

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4816 "2018-08-16T23:13:08Z")

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Of _course_ I’m now speculating that Minrah is gay. “Cool with me. You do you, kid.”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4817 "2018-08-16T23:29:18Z")

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Eh, I think it’s pretty clear that she has a crush on Thor himself. Dreams written in glitter ink, and all.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4818 "2018-08-17T01:44:29Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Wild out-there guess almost certainly as wrong as all my other guesses–but what if it’s a Protean, birthed from the Snarl? Better yet, what if the Monster in the Dark IS the last gate? …
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> Would justify the MitD as a protean–surely the form the Snarl would take if bound into corporeal form. Would fit the story. Is almost certainly wrong.

Plausible, I say. MitD could be a child, errant pseuodpod, or creation of the snarl. Or even a family friend.

Not necessary to the story though. Except for the mystery of the running gag where MitD doesn’t recognize any of the gates. The fact that MitD has a hazy recollection of the Astral Plane only implies to me that his parents were familiar with the same.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> …but it’s really unlikely that I’ve got an idea on the subject hasn’t been covered exhaustively in ~500 PAGES (not posts, PAGES) of discussion.

That’s basically why I trust the summary on top of their thread. Hive mind. If I’m wrong, methinks it has some epistemological significance. Or I have some bad assumptions regarding what Rich said.

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> Of _course_ I’m now speculating that Minrah is gay. “Cool with me. You do you, kid.”

That was my take on it. Thor’s easy going about stuff like that.

And it WOULD be very affirming to have your god give you the thumbs up.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4820 "2018-08-17T06:30:19Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> Of _course_ I’m now speculating that Minrah is gay. “Cool with me. You do you, kid.”

I don’t think so, I don’t think gayness has the kind of real slife stigma in the Stickverse, and just knowing the real Durkon for this short period Minrah has got to realise he’s an easygoing guy even if there was such a stigma, I just don’t see homosexuality as a thing Thor would need to be circumspect about around Durkon.

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/4821 "2018-08-17T06:30:55Z")

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That panel’s a total Chekhov’s Gun. We’ll find out what it is by the end of the story arc, I’m thinking.

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