# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2014, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/481 "2014-09-01T13:36:49Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > Yeah, but it shows that Roy isn’t a completely trusting doofus. At least he _tries_ to trust but verify, even if he’s pretty bad at it. Yeah, but the punchline was terrible. Doesn’t parse well when spoken, no way you’d confuse the two and doesn’t even make sense for Vampire-Durkon since Thor apparently _does_ know that Hel has one of his high level clerics and has entered the Northern Lands. I get that Burlow was going for an “Eats shoots and leaves” thing here but it was a definite fumble. I know, nearly a thousand strips and can’t all be winners. Just giving my opinion on this one. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/482 "2014-09-01T17:31:05Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > Strip #951 now says “Andi” Okay, I think we can officially declare a wizard did it. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/483 "2014-09-11T12:10:24Z")
[New one.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0962.html) ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/484 "2014-09-11T13:21:31Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > [New one.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0962.html) Doesn’t exactly send the plot charging forward, does it? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2014, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/485 "2014-09-12T00:19:05Z")
I’ve played White Wolf games with faster moving plots than this 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2014, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/486 "2014-09-12T02:29:06Z")
I figure we better get used to slower pace, as I think it’s been more typical of Oots than not. The previous year sure was a wild ride though. One aspect was clarified for me. Back in [948](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0948.html) Durkevil said, “The sooner I absorb all your memories, the sooner I can stop talking to you. Usually the process takes a few months, but it’s not a problem if you want to start your eternal dormancy early.” I interpreted that as meaning that Durkon would be put into a permanent sleep. But this strip has Durkevil saying they are stuck with each other. I guess that could refer purely to the present tense, but it could also mean that Durkevil could just ignore Durkon in a year or so, rather than suffer constant aggravation. Jeez, Oots vampires really are unnatural and horrific abominations aren’t they? This interpretation also makes the traditional depiction of vampirific ennui more persuasive. Being verbally abused by your body’s former host might get to be a drag after a couple of hundred years. Far better to be a diplomat like Malack. Yes, yes, we discussed earlier about whether Durkevil was _sui generis_: I guess no. > [@Grumman](#): > > More than once per month, I’d hope. Sadly, 12 decent strips per year are more than most cartoonists can manage IMHO. Then again 90% of everything… could be better. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/487 "2014-09-12T03:44:21Z")
I suspect big climactic scenes are more fun write and draw than the set-up and exposition strips, hence the slower rate right now versus the end of the last book. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2014, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/488 "2014-09-12T04:04:27Z")
It also takes more time to get the exposition and set-up right. You don’t get to do the big climax otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/489 "2014-09-15T16:46:09Z")
And he is working on the Kickstarter stuff that is slightly past due. ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/490 "2014-09-15T18:08:52Z")
> [@Lok](#): > > And he is working on the Kickstarter stuff that is slightly past due. You and I define “slightly” differently. 🙂 But I have been content to wait. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/491 "2014-09-26T23:53:53Z")
New one. [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html) ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/492 "2014-09-27T01:33:13Z")
Hmm, Durkon has a plan. Aye dunno what 'tis, but he 'as one. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/493 "2014-09-27T05:21:25Z")
I think that Durkon’s hoping that he can get the vampire to take the wrong things away from his memories and act inappropriately. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/494 "2014-09-27T09:34:59Z")
And it’s a triple-panel. No wonder we had to wait so long. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/495 "2014-09-27T12:30:16Z")
That’s… quite the retcon, isn’t it ? I realize those are memories of looong ago, back before the Order existed, but still I don’t really recall Durkon ever making a point to ask before helping anyone ? ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/496 "2014-09-27T12:47:41Z")
Maybe he learned the appropriate balance before we met him way back when ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/497 "2014-09-27T12:50:55Z")
Yeah - I don’t see a retcon. He’s a good boy, doing what his mama told him - ask before helping. Now the leader tells him a new rule. Being lawful good (and extremely rule-bound), he follows the new rule. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/498 "2014-09-27T14:04:17Z")
When Roy met Durkon (_Origin of PCs_), Durkon was ‘adventuring’ with a party that sent him on suicide missions because they didn’t like him. Durkon went along because he had been sent (exiled) to be with the humans and figured all humans were jerks anyway so it didn’t matter which jerks he was with – he’d just go along until he got killed. Roy treated him well and defended him so Durkon decided to join up with Roy. I’m guessing the frog was their first major encounter together. Durkon is nervous about hurting his new (and sole) friendship by acting out of turn and tripping Roy up. He obviously wants to help which is why he’s asking but he doesn’t want Roy to react as his mother did but with Roy leaving rather than his mother’s gentle lesson. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/499 "2014-10-14T14:02:32Z")
[964](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0964.html) Condidering how long it took i’m going with the answer of “No” for elan’s question ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/500 "2014-10-14T14:46:49Z")
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