# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 265
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5282 "2018-10-30T09:42:21Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > I dunno. I’m not as up as you good folk on OOTS, but “I see worlds within worlds and yarn winding yarn.” makes me think of the world that the raven saw, and the Snarl. > > Oracles very rarely speak plainly. Well, yes, sometimes it’s hard to distinguish between mental problems and telling the truth without explaining everything. If the truth is bizarre enough, that is. So the stuff Odin says in this strip may be true but we won’t find out until after further events. Lois Bujold did this in her book _Curse of Chalion_. Ista was thought by everyone to be mentally unhinged, but the things she said were all correct. It’s just that no one had the background and context to interpret them. Well, until Caz learned a whole lot of new stuff. ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5283 "2018-10-30T10:59:33Z")
First time I have seen a god being depicted as suffering from what amounts to (reversible) Alzheimer… I guess that being shaped and sustained by belief has its downsides! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5284 "2018-10-30T11:04:51Z")
“You can boot off a floppy but don’t pull it out in the middle.” Truly the wisdom of the Highfather knows no bounds. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5285 "2018-10-30T15:23:07Z")
I think it’s deeper than that. Odin is still wise, because being wise is an inherent part of his identity. He’s just not _consciously_ wise right now. So, yes, he can totally do things like give out ominous self-fulfilling prophecies that result in all the right people being in just the right place at the right time, while still not realizing that that’s what he’s doing, or even remember it. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5286 "2018-11-03T14:54:57Z")
Thor does say he has his good days and bad days, so it’s possible that sometimes he is entirely lucid. And I think Odin was speaking before. He knows of the Snarl, but had to be cryptic. But that was his way of saying “There’s still snarl stuff to do.” Though maybe he was also trying in his semi-lucid state to say that there is more to the Snarl than they thought. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5287 "2018-11-04T02:00:03Z")
I thought that his vote at the Godsmoot was fairly clear: There’s more going on here than we realize, more than even he realizes, and so we really need to figure out more instead of taking drastic action when we can’t possibly understand all of the implications. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5288 "2018-11-04T15:12:08Z")
If we postulate a hundred million monuments, aren’t we also postulating a hundred million worlds and a hundred million godsmoots (give or take)? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5289 "2018-11-04T15:46:55Z")
No, there would be several godsmoots per world. They might have an issue to discuss every few decades, and worlds last a few thousand years, so maybe 100 per world. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5290 "2018-11-04T17:30:50Z")
Yeah, Wrecan said that he’d personally been to several Godsmoots before. And he appeared to be human, and not particularly old, and there’s not even any guarantee that he’s been to all of them since he came of age. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5291 "2018-11-05T09:01:56Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > If we postulate a hundred million monuments, aren’t we also postulating a hundred million worlds and a hundred million godsmoots (give or take)? > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > No, there would be several godsmoots per world. They might have an issue to discuss every few decades, and worlds last a few thousand years, so maybe 100 per world. But presumably each world that they ended to prevent the Snarl getting ahold of it required them to reach a consensus about taking the action. Wouldn’t each of those have required a Final Godsmoot? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5292 "2018-11-05T09:33:46Z")
I get the impression that most worlds end when the Snarl breaks free. Voting on pre-emptively ending the world may be a rare event. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5293 "2018-11-05T12:17:45Z")
Certainly, the worlds that ended within minutes didn’t get a chance for a Final Godsmoot. But Thor says that they mostly manage a few thousand years, nowadays (or nowaeons, I guess). With a millennium to watch a world and plan, I’d be surprised if they didn’t get time for Moots. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5294 "2018-11-05T14:08:36Z")
I’m wondering how often a Godsmoot End of World Debate ended with the gods saying “Let’s hold off for now.” Probably pretty alarming for the High Priests and their bodyguards… ---
**Author:** ![2nd\_Law](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/f475e1/32.png) [@2nd\_Law](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_Law)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5295 "2018-11-10T16:12:55Z")
[1146](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1146.html) is up ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5296 "2018-11-10T17:12:57Z")
Yay, Banjo! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5297 "2018-11-10T17:13:54Z")
So what’s the secret? My guess: gunpowder. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5298 "2018-11-10T17:39:53Z")
“Gosh I could give you amazing magical spells on demand every single morning. Do you think that might help?” I’m still rolling on the floor from that one. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5299 "2018-11-10T17:43:12Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > My guess: gunpowder. Presumably, they already have it, to fire [their guns](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0240.html). And they have the much more powerful[T.N.T.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0239.html) too. So, not that. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5300 "2018-11-10T17:48:06Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Presumably, they already have it, to fire [their guns](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0240.html). > > And they have the much more powerful[T.N.T.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0239.html) too. > > So, not that. Fuckin’ gnomes. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5301 "2018-11-10T17:55:34Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > So what’s the secret? > > My guess: gunpowder. Only if Durkon’s people used to be aardvarks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=264) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=266)