# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 279
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5562 "2019-01-25T15:39:30Z")
The mom burns continue. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5563 "2019-01-25T15:46:47Z")
And I think Burlew has a kid. No real evidence other than he nails baby facial expressions being handled and exposed to new people. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5564 "2019-01-25T15:54:57Z")
Thanks for the fix, **JC**. How embarrassing. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5565 "2019-01-25T15:57:09Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > Belkar went [out that door](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1100.html) not too long ago and didn’t have any difficulty. There were runes on the floor then, too, and he was definitely Evil at that time. Belkar, like the rest of the group, is very high level. We’ve seen him shrug off anti-evil attacks. But he notices the effects when they’re made. I’m assuming this is the first time he’s crossed an anti-evil barrier without triggering it. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5566 "2019-01-25T16:03:09Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Thanks for the fix, **JC**. How embarrassing. That’s no worries. More embarrassing is my own type in the edit field. Quel dommage. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5567 "2019-01-25T16:58:14Z")
That had me giggling harder than the strip has in a long time. Sigdi is amazing. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5568 "2019-01-25T18:50:32Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Belkar, like the rest of the group, is very high level. We’ve seen him shrug off anti-evil attacks. But he notices the effects when they’re made. I’m assuming this is the first time he’s crossed an anti-evil barrier without triggering it. Don’t rune traps have a specific amount of damage they do and then disappear? The ones in the [banquet room](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1117.html) where the fight with the vampires happened did. So did the one on the [step outside the door](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1093.html) that the Order first came in through. So if these runes were a trap that Belkar triggered on the way out, they shouldn’t still be there now. Also, he should have taken some damage when leaving the [temple](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1100.html) and he didn’t. These runes are probably something else. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5569 "2019-01-25T20:34:49Z")
I would have fixed the typo, but I opened this thread _just_ as I needed to be getting out the door. I didn’t even get a chance to read the comic before just now (which was annoying me all afternoon). Thanks for the assist, **JC**. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5570 "2019-01-25T21:47:11Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > Don’t rune traps have a specific amount of damage they do and then disappear? Sometimes, but not always. A lot of magical traps can reset themselves after firing. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5571 "2019-01-25T22:30:18Z")
Take a leaf from Sergeant Sigdi folks: that’s how you persuade someone. _First_ you show some empathy and build up your social capital: make them care about your opinion. Then you express your point of view. Then you circle back, tacking on softeners. When you state your POV, keep it brief. This isn’t about self expression. Make it something that the counterpart might accept if not necessarily agree with. Keep it reasonable. Operate at their level, in their language. Then pivot to something else. The key aspect though is getting the counterpart to invest in your opinion of them. That’s a necessary component. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5572 "2019-01-25T23:15:23Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Take a leaf from Sergeant Sigdi folks: that’s how you persuade someone. _First_ you show some empathy and build up your social capital: make them care about your opinion. Then you express your point of view. Then you circle back, tacking on softeners. > > When you state your POV, keep it brief. This isn’t about self expression. Make it something that the counterpart might accept if not necessarily agree with. Keep it reasonable. Operate at their level, in their language. Then pivot to something else. > > The key aspect though is getting the counterpart to invest in your opinion of them. That’s a necessary component. Yes, you also want to show that you’re invested in the situation. Don’t make threats in a casual manner; if you do people might not take them seriously. For the same reason, don’t make hyperbolic threats. You want to show that you care about the situation and that you can relied on to follow through with the threat that you’ve made. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5573 "2019-01-26T00:15:22Z")
I liked the subtle joke, replacing “water under the bridge” with “water over the tunnel”. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5574 "2019-01-26T01:46:10Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Sometimes, but not always. A lot of magical traps can reset themselves after firing. OK, but he still didn’t take any damage leaving the temple. Also, Hilgya, who is almost certainly Evil, just walked over the same runes and she didn’t get zapped. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5575 "2019-01-26T02:52:39Z")
> [@](#): > > I liked the subtle joke, replacing “water under the bridge” with “water over the tunnel”. Reminds me of how, to Terry Pratchett’s trolls, the “dawn of time” means the end. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5576 "2019-01-31T15:50:00Z")
[1154 Forgotten Secret](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1154.html) ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5577 "2019-01-31T16:07:12Z")
Thanks for bringing that up, Belkar. I, too, was wondering why he hadn’t changed out of those ripped robes yet. Also, I’m amused at the close-up LOKI SUCKS message. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5578 "2019-01-31T16:17:02Z")
A hammer \*and \*gloves/gauntlets. Missing a belt so I guess we’re not getting Crom Faeyr. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5579 "2019-01-31T16:24:47Z")
“Loki Sucks”, as a code, certainly puts “Speak, friend, and enter” in the shade. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5580 "2019-01-31T16:34:21Z")
Mmm…ruminant boob drippings… ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5581 "2019-01-31T16:51:01Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > A hammer \*and \*gloves/gauntlets. Missing a belt so I guess we’re not getting Crom Faeyr. 🙂 Roy has a belt… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=278) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=280)