# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 281
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5602 "2019-02-11T19:58:07Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Well, whatever that red ward thing is over the doors and windows, it doesn’t seem to be up for the task. Maybe the smoke snuck in though an unwarded crack or crevice. Or the vamp was teleported in before going misty. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5603 "2019-02-11T20:04:18Z")
It’s likely that the orange (looks more orange than red to me) field is like the one at the Godsmoot: it keeps any required participants from leaving but not others from entering. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5604 "2019-02-11T22:29:26Z")
In that final panel in episode [1154](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1154.html), just what is that thing Durkon is holding in his right [del]fork[/del] hand? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5605 "2019-02-11T22:31:40Z")
A gauntlet. They go with the hammer. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5606 "2019-02-11T22:43:52Z")
Notice also that he’s wearing one on his left hand. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5607 "2019-02-11T22:56:37Z")
Assuming it’s a [Hammer of Thunderbolts](http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/artifacts.htm#hammerofThunderbolts), he’ll need [Gaulets of Ogre Power](http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#gauntletsofOgrePower) and a Belt of Giant Strength to get the maximum possible benefit. So we’ll assume that those are the gauntlets (he’s wearing the left one) and that the belt is still in the drawer. The suggestion that he borrow Roy’s Belt is unlikely, since that would weaken Roy. This is supposed to be an upgrade, but not at someone else’s expense. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5608 "2019-02-11T23:05:09Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > The suggestion that he borrow Roy’s Belt is unlikely, since that would weaken Roy. V can cast _Bull’s Strength_ so Roy would not be significantly weakened. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5609 "2019-02-11T23:39:00Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > V can cast _Bull’s Strength_ so Roy would not be significantly weakened. But it uses a spell slot - and Thor isn’t likely to gift an artifact weapon without leaving the necessary items to fully employ it. Since the gauntlets appear to be there, it is reasonable to assume the belt is also. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5610 "2019-02-12T00:22:42Z")
Actually, even if Roy’s Belt is a +6 belt he only loses 3 to hit and damage without it and given his high level and other bonuses, he doesn’t actually need it. So he could easily give it up. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5611 "2019-02-12T00:33:22Z")
The fact that he has a bunch of other bonuses is precisely why Roy benefits so much from the belt. Even if that really is a Hammer of Thunderbolts and it really doesn’t come with its own belt, and even with the full-set bonuses, the belt would probably _still_ be more use to Roy than to Durkon. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5612 "2019-02-12T06:16:19Z")
[1155](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1155.html) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5613 "2019-02-12T06:37:31Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > [1155](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1155.html) Guess it doesn’t hurt to have it repeated on the new page, for convenience. Also, for future reference: you need to put the color tags inside the URL tags for it to show, [like this](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1155.html) ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5614 "2019-02-19T16:37:32Z")
[1156](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1156.html) is up ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5615 "2019-02-19T20:29:32Z")
So much for robbing their final moments of dignity- Unnamed Dwarf Daughter is now one of my favorite characters. Up yours, Ex-arch! ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5616 "2019-02-20T05:52:44Z")
So, why didn’t they use their vampiric gaze on Unnamed Dwarf Daughter? Could they only use it on so many people at a time? Or was she strong enough to resist it? ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5617 "2019-02-20T06:46:52Z")
My guess is she made her saving throw. There doesn’t seem to any limit to how many beings can be dominated. At least none are mentioned in [d20srd](http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/vampire.htm). ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5618 "2019-02-21T15:21:32Z")
It looks like the right vampire (halfling?) was busy Dominating the guards and the left (dwarf woman?) one was dominating the matriarch and Daughter wasn’t looking directly at either. Given how terrible everyone seems to roll their Will saves in this strip, I can’t imagine that Daughter just casually resisted without even a “Errr… no!” or something to show it. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5619 "2019-02-21T19:57:52Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > It looks like the right vampire (halfling?) was busy Dominating the guards and the left (dwarf woman?) one was dominating the matriarch and Daughter wasn’t looking directly at either. Given how terrible everyone seems to roll their Will saves in this strip, I can’t imagine that Daughter just casually resisted without even a “Errr… no!” or something to show it. Halfling? Since when do halflings wear boots? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5620 "2019-02-21T20:51:26Z")
Tell 'im to grow a beard or wear a funny hat if he doesn’t want to be confused. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5621 "2019-03-01T19:28:13Z")
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