# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5923 "2019-06-19T18:37:55Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> The plane, BTW, is Gehenna - the LE/NE plane in which gravity is at a 45-degree angle to the ground, making it an eternal slope.

I know i shouldn’t think about this too much, being that a wizard did it and all, but if the gravity is at a 45 degree angle to the ground, wouldn’t everything eventually slide fall in the direction of the slope, causing it to be normal gravity? Or is an infinite plane, so everything is tumbling forever?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5924 "2019-06-19T19:18:56Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> I know i shouldn’t think about this too much, being that a wizard did it and all, but if the gravity is at a 45 degree angle to the ground, wouldn’t everything eventually slide fall in the direction of the slope, causing it to be normal gravity? Or is an infinite plane, so everything is tumbling forever?

Perhaps the ground is horizontal, but gravity at 45 degrees makes it seem like a slope. That’s my interpretation, anyway.

[Obligatory XKCD link](https://xkcd.com/417/).

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5925 "2019-06-19T19:29:03Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> All that changes from person to person is the angle.  
> Wait for it.

Hell is full of fallin’ angles?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5926 "2019-06-19T22:07:02Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> I know i shouldn’t think about this too much, being that a wizard did it and all, but if the gravity is at a 45 degree angle to the ground, wouldn’t everything eventually slide fall in the direction of the slope, causing it to be normal gravity? Or is an infinite plane, so everything is tumbling forever?

I think it would be fair to say that [the normal rules of physics don’t apply](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0499.html) on many other planes, especially the afterlife ones. They barely apply in the Stickverse as it is, given narrativium and the odd fourth-wall breakage.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5927 "2019-06-19T23:21:17Z")

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Everything can’t pile up at the bottom, because there is no bottom. Loss of material due to erosion is replaced by eroded material falling in from higher up.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5928 "2019-06-21T14:22:41Z")

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**1168** [1168 Limited Motions - Giant in the Playground Games](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1168.html)

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5929 "2019-06-21T14:56:21Z")

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Ooh! Topical!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5930 "2019-06-21T15:21:48Z")

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Wow, the Cobalt Elder _almost_ single-handedly defeated all of the vampires, there.

Way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5931 "2019-06-21T15:32:34Z")

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You know, I’m normally pretty lenient of character decisions, but this strip really strained plausibility for me.  
Are you seriously expecting me to believe that the chair doesn’t realize a motion to bring business before an assembly is not interruptible and requires a call for a second with a majority vote prior to bringing Clan Whiterock’s separate motion for investigation before the council? Yeah. Right. Just took me right out of the story.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5932 "2019-06-21T15:42:09Z")

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Do you really expect a humorous comic strip to follow Robert’s Rules of Order to a T when violating them provides a joke?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5933 "2019-06-21T15:49:12Z")

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Who’s Robert?

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5934 "2019-06-21T15:55:20Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Who’s Robert?

God of Parliamentary Procedure (LN)

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5935 "2019-06-21T15:56:26Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Ooh! Topical!

I am enjoying reading the GITP forums, and trying to see which of the posters will run afoul of the no real life politics rule, and just how close to the line many will walk.

The whole situation with the Elders does sound really silly. As a few of the posters there said, “Don’t Dwarves get a bonus to wisdom, especially elderly ones?”

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5936 "2019-06-21T15:59:01Z")

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> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> The whole situation with the Elders does sound really silly. As a few of the posters there said, “Don’t Dwarves get a bonus to wisdom, especially elderly ones?”

Yeah, it strains credibility to the point where I didn’t really find it amusing but whatever. Onward to the next strip, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5937 "2019-06-21T17:38:54Z")

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I’m hoping the next strip will have more context as to why they’re being such idiots.

And the political parallels are so on-the-nose it hurts.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5938 "2019-06-21T18:34:51Z")

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[Moderating]  
A reminder that while our rules here concerning politics aren’t as strict as they are on GiantITP, we should still avoid getting too deep into the real-world parallels.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5939 "2019-06-21T19:04:17Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> God of Parliamentary Procedure (LN)

Well, how did HE vote on the question of whether to destroy the world?

And don’t tell me he’s from a different pantheon, or I’ll counter with an objection that the dwarves don’t have any business holding themselves accountable to follow his rules.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5940 "2019-06-21T19:27:11Z")

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BTW, it seems to me that the impromptu Thundershield clan has enough members there to take one for the team, so to speak, and knock the Dominated elders out so that they can be restored with the Song of Freedom (or, if the Song of Freedom can’t be played within the Chamber, then regrettably knifed). Their petrification would be cancelled out when the meeting was adjourned, no?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5941 "2019-06-21T20:28:13Z")

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Or just, you know, drag them outside of the chamber. The Godsmoot wards prevented that, but I don’t think anyone said anything about the Council wards doing the same.

Or just leave them in place unconscious, and let them count as abstaining in the vote.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5942 "2019-06-22T00:02:42Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Well, how did HE vote on the question of whether to destroy the world?

Does the paliamentarian get a vote? Maybe he just skipped the Godsmoot because they kept violating the rules he made up.

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