# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5963 "2019-07-10T22:05:49Z")

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Huh, in the first panel Mr. This-Council-Is-Dominated-By-Vampires looks surprised. I wonder if he’s just started by the magic next to him, or if he didn’t know this was going to be a question from Dvalin.

Okay, looking back, I can’t find anything that says these clan councils are _always_ about godly matters. Anyone?

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Enough about the teeth. Why is everybody’s quiditty muddy brown instead of yellow?

Because they’re in a cave with brown walls.

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5964 "2019-07-10T22:07:09Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Some of the best parts of the Norse myths (any version of them, including the versions written by Marvel) are the parts where Thor and Loki are cooperating.

Five words: Thor in a wedding dress.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5965 "2019-07-10T22:37:33Z")

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> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#):
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> Five words: Thor in a wedding dress.

Mmmmmmm, good one.

I grew up on “D’Aulaires’ Book of Norse Myths”

[https://www.amazon.com/DAulaires-Norse-Myths-Ingri-dAulaire/dp/159017125X](https://www.amazon.com/DAulaires-Norse-Myths-Ingri-dAulaire/dp/159017125X)

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5966 "2019-07-15T14:35:00Z")

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[1171: Going In, Getting Out](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1171.html)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5967 "2019-07-15T15:11:20Z")

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“When this is over, I will accept any food-based expressions of that sentiment that you wish to offer.”

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5968 "2019-07-15T16:31:09Z")

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:lol:

Loki is entertaining.

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**Author:** ![ebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@ebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ebb)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5969 "2019-07-15T17:05:02Z")

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This has to be more than just a distraction, right?

Like buried in the file cabinet is a single piece of paper that says, “Also, any dwarves that die in a world-ending apocalypse will be deemed to have died in battle by definition, with appropriate measures taken regarding disposition of their souls”. Something for Hel to unknowingly agree to, that they can then reveal and change the game?

The god stuff here is funny, but it doesn’t seem to be carrying its weight in the narrative unless there’s another shoe to drop. With Loki, I expect a lot of shoes.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5970 "2019-07-15T18:15:08Z")

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> [@ebb](#):
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> Like buried in the file cabinet is a single piece of paper that says, “Also, any dwarves that die in a world-ending apocalypse will be deemed to have died in battle by definition, with appropriate measures taken regarding disposition of their souls”. Something for Hel to unknowingly agree to, that they can then reveal and change the game?

I think, narratively, the win needs to come from Durkon (or the Order in general) so while Loki may distract Hel or keep her from doing stuff, it won’t be any trick by Loki that actually fixes the whole vote issue or forces her to back down.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5971 "2019-07-15T18:29:32Z")

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I’d been _wondering_ where Hilgya was! Hilarious!

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**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5972 "2019-07-17T01:53:31Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> “When this is over, I will accept any food-based expressions of that sentiment that you wish to offer.”

I also enjoyed that!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5973 "2019-07-17T14:27:06Z")

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Loki might slip a clause like that into the paperwork, but that won’t detract from Durkon’s victory, because if Durkon prevents the world from being destroyed at all, then it won’t come up. It’s good for Loki to have a plan B, but remember, he was against destroying the world even before Hel monologued her evil plan (a villainous monologue? Really? He’s a failure as a parent).

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5974 "2019-07-29T13:44:55Z")

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[1172: Ray of Hope](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1172.html)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5975 "2019-07-29T14:00:39Z")

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That hammer still needs to come back, which will presumably do more damage.

And his plan wasn’t to make just a hole. His plan was to do it just like his Pa did.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5976 "2019-07-29T14:09:58Z")

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I’m too lazy to search. What do we know about Durkon’s Pa?

Presumably even if enough aye votes are recorded to guarantee a majority the vote won’t conclude until all the nay votes so any non-dominated clan leader can delay indefinitely?

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**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5977 "2019-07-29T14:26:00Z")

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[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0991.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0991.html)

He used his hammer to bury a troll in a cave-in, sacrificing himself to stop it.

Durkon’s plan is likely to collapse the roof altogether, exposing the vampire to more sunlight than he can handle. Or maybe just bury the entire council chamber and stop the vote altogether.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5978 "2019-07-29T14:40:14Z")

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You’d have thought that **Mr Shine** would remember the part about a dwarf killing a troll.

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**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5979 "2019-07-29T14:50:10Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> That hammer still needs to come back, which will presumably do more damage.

That’s my guess. This is Durkon’s fight to win against the vampire and Hel so I’m guessing there’s a second stage to what Durkon just did (versus someone else finishing the job).

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**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5980 "2019-07-29T15:48:33Z")

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I agree that by story-telling coventions, Durkon’s actions will win the plot arc.

But I want to note that the hammer just went out where someone on the Mechane could possibly see it. If they do, I’m sure they will investigate. Will Bandana and crew have any part to play in this conflict? It’s hard to say, but I wouldn’t rule it out.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5981 "2019-07-30T00:00:47Z")

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Pretty sure Durkon knew perfectly well what was going to happen. And that “vampire obligingly stands in one narrow beam of sunlight and burns to death” wasn’t part of the plan.

On a slightly different note, what do you guys think of the new book 6 title?

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/5982 "2019-07-30T01:35:40Z")

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> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#):
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> On a slightly different note, what do you guys think of the new book 6 title?

Meh. Not as good as previous titles, to me. But Rich will probably pull out a capper to end the arc that makes the title just perfect.

Bastard.

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