# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread

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**Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\
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All those loose ends may not be tied up before this book ends. The Order could move on with the council still suspended, waiting for a new table, and thus the Godsmoot not finished. And they don’t really need to catch the last vampire, either. The cousin’s fiancee can be rescued off-screen.

The surprise revelation may be a shift to Team Evil, perhaps finally finding the last gate. That wouldn’t be terribly surprising, so expect something else.

I think someone in the other forum figured (based on I’m not sure what) it was about a dozen more strips, but that was a couple-three strips ago, so 9 or 10 now. I don’t know what the deadline is for pre-Christmas publication, but at three work days/strip it’s going to be tight.

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Still another few pages to go. The Giant says he’s hoping to get the book out before Christmas. If it was only one or two pages, he’d be able to say for sure. I’d guess maybe another 15-20 pages.
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> Things to wrap up before the end:
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> - mend the table
> - rescue the cousin’s fiancee from the perpetual slope
> - dwarven council votes
> - Godsmoot resolved
> - catch and destroy the last vampire
> - Durkon speaks to Hilgya about visitation rights and his parental responsibility
> - The Order returns to the Mechane
> - some surprise revelation the last page, to be resolved in the next book.

I’m voting for table not fixed, and therefore Godsmoot not finished, which holds a bunch of very high level priests out of the denouement at the last Gate for the next couple of days. Their calendar is similar to ours, with the solstice and end of the year timing. Belkar dies at the end of the year or earlier, the solstice was only a day or two ago, and therefore Burlew can wrap all this up in 6-7 days of comic time in the final book with Belkar dying at the climax or near it.

I’m really interested how they’re going to fix the Hilgya situation. I also am not sure the Mechane is how they’re going to get to the last Gate. Fiancee rescue seems like bonus strip material.

Burlew’s going to have to get on it, for the book to be in the printer’s hands by, what? end of October? In order for it to be in stores ~Xmas? Great pace so far though.

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> . I’d guess maybe another 15-20 pages.

On reflection, I’ll revise that. Last strip, the confrontation between Loki and Thor, is about the same place in the book as when Tarquin was [left behind in the desert](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0936.html). The wrap up from there took 10 updates and 11 pages.

I expect the wrap up in this book will take about the same. Current strip is the first page of wrap-up. Maybe 9-12 to go.

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Still another few pages to go. The Giant says he’s hoping to get the book out before Christmas. If it was only one or two pages, he’d be able to say for sure. I’d guess maybe another 15-20 pages.
> 
> Things to wrap up before the end:
> 
> - mend the table
> - rescue the cousin’s fiancee from the perpetual slope
> - dwarven council votes
> - Godsmoot resolved
> - catch and destroy the last vampire
> - Durkon speaks to Hilgya about visitation rights and his parental responsibility
> - The Order returns to the Mechane
> - some surprise revelation the last page, to be resolved in the next book.

I doubt most of these items will be wrapped up in this book. Some will be resolved off camera and some will be put on a back burner for resolution much later in the story. It’s like the Tarquin storyline; once it stops advancing the main plot, Burlew feels no need to stick around and tidy up the details.

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No, I meant the visual of Durkon himself turning from stone to fleshy, not the Song of Freedom.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/6108 "2019-09-04T03:09:46Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> No, I meant the visual of Durkon himself turning from stone to fleshy, not the Song of Freedom.

Oh, well I really liked that 60-70s protest vibe in panel two.

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Oh, well I really liked that 60-70s protest vibe in panel two.

The hippies singing is a nice counterpoint with their very Lawful society, akin to Elan’s cornpone ‘God, Guns and Guts’ singing, when he’s as Chaotic as they come. Fine bit of mirrored irony by Burlew.

I haven’t really liked this book, but I’ve really liked parts within it.

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I don’t expect either catching the vampire (as that’s a part of what’s keeping Hel alive) nor the fixing of the table (as people had already voted). I mostly just expect the setting up of the next book. Get them started moving so that we can join them in the next actual conflict. Maybe actually have something happen that leaves a proper cliffhanger.

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> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> The hippies singing is a nice counterpoint with their very Lawful society …

[They’re bards, they can’t BE Lawful.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0205.html)

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> [They’re bards, they can’t BE Lawful.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0205.html)

For no apparent reason, I’m now envisioning the _Team America: World Police_ versions of [Martin Sheen and Tim Robbins](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No3xu-NU_xA) sitting around going “We’re _bards_.” “Barrrrrrrrrds.”

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[1179: Indefinite Accomodations](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1179.html)

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“They’re like the trendy juice bar of monsters”. Heh.

This all looks suspiciously like denouement, so the end of the book is in sight.

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To be clear, I don’t expect it to play a part at all but seeing Hel’s new high priest sulking in the corner of the Godsmoot while the rest plan their summoned meals made me wonder how often vampires need to feed. A quick Google found me this response on Reddit:

> [@](#):
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> 3.5e has _Libris Mortis_, a handbook about all things Undead, which includes a number of Undead and their diets. It differentiates between Diet-Dependent or Inescapable Craving, the former of which is stated for three days per feeding and the latter only one day per feeding. It has the Undead make a Will save or lose Wisdom every feeding period it goes without feeding, until eventually it loses all Wisdom, goes insane, and stops at nothing to get its meal. It calls the Vampire’s blood draining Diet-Dependent, but also has the Vampire’s ability to deal negative levels (which it doesn’t have in 5e) an Inescapable Craving. I think I’d just nix that last part and stick with Diet-Dependent blood drinking. So call it every three days if the Vampire wants to be comfortable, and it can go an arguably indefinitely amount of time without feeding but it’ll get crazier and crazier while it’s starved.

Again, I don’t think the story will end with Hel’s hunger-crazed high priest attacking people in a lust for blood but, you know, gotta talk about somethin’.

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For those unfamiliar with it (as I was before reading the other forum), the Treeslayer panel is a parody of [Trollslayer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollslayer). Note that the mounts are beaver and woodpecker, two animals that also attack trees.

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> For those unfamiliar with it (as I was before reading the other forum), the Treeslayer panel is a parody of [Trollslayer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollslayer). Note that the mounts are beaver and woodpecker, two animals that also attack trees.

I’m not really seeing the parody, other than the name, and \_\_\_\_\_\_slayer is a pretty generic formulation in fantasy stuff.

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> For those unfamiliar with it (as I was before reading the other forum), the Treeslayer panel is a parody of [Trollslayer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollslayer). Note that the mounts are beaver and woodpecker, two animals that also attack trees.

I doubt it.

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Seemed more of a parody of warhammer dwarven slayers than anything else.

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It’s not a parody of that book, specifically, it’s a parody of the dwarf [Slayers in Warhammer](https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Slayers)in general. The punk mohawk look seals the deal, it’s their defining feature (although traditionally orange).

You get Giant Slayers, Demon Slayers and Dragon Slayers in addition to Troll Slayers. For OOTS Dwarfs, Tree Slayers are completely on-brand.

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Seemed more of a parody of warhammer dwarven slayers than anything else.

Well, yes. _Trollslayer_ was the first book in that series. OK, so it wasn’t specifically about that book, but that book started the whole thing.

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> To be clear, I don’t expect it to play a part at all but seeing Hel’s new high priest sulking in the corner of the Godsmoot while the rest plan their summoned meals made me wonder how often vampires need to feed.

Perhaps the priest could cast their own _Create Food and Drink_ and get something suited for their diet?

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